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ferninando 12-19-2009 05:48 PM

vintage or antique?
 
is 50s vintage or antique?

Sandy G 12-19-2009 06:37 PM

I would say "Vintage", but others may differ..."Antique", to me anyway, implies 1930 or before...

Dan Starnes 12-19-2009 06:38 PM

I always refer to them as vintage.

jeyurkon 12-19-2009 08:39 PM

Vintage sounds right to me too. I looked "Antique" up on Merriam Webster and they infer that various Customs Laws require an antique to be 100 years old or more.

John

wa2ise 12-19-2009 09:44 PM

Legal meaning notwithstanding (over 100 years old), it depends on the field the item is a part of. An "antique computer" could be the very first PC made by IBM back around 1980. "Antique" software could be Windows 3.11 :D

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ferninando 12-20-2009 12:34 AM

Ah, so I'll use the "vintage" radio forum for info about a 50s era tube radio. I can do that. thanks.

ferninando 12-20-2009 08:13 AM

nope can't use the vintage radio forum. have to use the antique forum.:scratch2:
Oh well, no problem. I just acquired a Zenith X334 tube radio with a date of 1-59, all wood, definately styling of the era. I has the darndest looking "speaker" which appears to be electrostatic, in addition to the reg. paper cone speaker. It's about 2" square with a perforated screen and a shiny silver material behind it. There's electrical connections to it and its mounted as a speaker would be . A plastic covering protects the backside from damage. I'm gonna do the wood finish and detail the dial face . Just pulled it all apart to clean and examine all the workings, it's orig, unmolested, and just needs the grill material reattached in a corner. Not powered it yet.
Anyone care to comment? Recommend a good source of lit. should I want some.?
Thanks
PS: only gave 20 for it with a cut power cord. It'll look good when done. will post pics soon.

Sandy G 12-20-2009 08:32 AM

Can just about guarantee it'll need a re-capping job. Possibly a re-alignment, if somebody's been screwing w/that. Could have a dead tube, but I doubt it. When you get it going again, it should give good service for a long time.

ferninando 12-20-2009 09:04 AM

no signs of being screwd with, only the cut cord. Im the 1st human to see it naked since it was born in 59(?). all tubes orig. Got a tubetester so will check all tubes for life and will recap only of necessary. I'll see how it goes on the variac. Maybe the electroes in the can.
see the pic of the el. spkr I just posted.

bandersen 12-20-2009 03:34 PM

Here's the schematic for it: http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/d/9...d41ee2b48bb5f9

Looks like it uses a conventional 4 ohm PM speaker.
I wonder if that speaker looking item is actually an internal antenna ?

ferninando 12-20-2009 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 2962434)
Here's the schematic for it: http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/d/9...d41ee2b48bb5f9

Looks like it uses a conventional 4 ohm PM speaker.
I wonder if that speaker looking item is actually an internal antenna ?

thanks for that. that speaker has opening in front like the cone one and it's source is coming from the OPT thru a xover. I know it's an electrostatic speaker/tweeter.

bandersen 12-20-2009 04:02 PM

Can you find any marks on the chassis that indicate whether it's a 7N05 or 7N07 ?

The schematic shows a second speaker in dotted lines for the 7N07, but it's also 5" X 7".

Where did you post your picture ? I don't see it here.

ferninando 12-20-2009 07:27 PM

Its a 7N07. Look up in the 'electrostatic speaker from zenith x334' thread above. can only post pics once in AK.
FWIW I powered it up today and IT WORKS!!! Tunes stations across the band(AM so far) volum and tone work and are nonscratchy, but I cleaned them. Speaker is abit scratchy being an old paper cone. Hope to find a new one. Hope antiqueradios has one.

marty59 12-21-2009 08:52 AM

I have an X334 also! Lots of ceramic caps, so I recapped the (becoming leaky) electrolytic and there were some resistors that had drifted. Still has all it's original tubes! It's a decient player.
Watch out for that hot chassis and neutralize it at least. On mine, the A/C cord is still original and since it's not polarized, I marked the prongs so I plug it in the same way.

ferninando 12-21-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marty59 (Post 2962492)
I have an X334 also! Lots of ceramic caps, so I recapped the (becoming leaky) electrolytic and there were some resistors that had drifted. Still has all it's original tubes! It's a decient player.
Watch out for that hot chassis and neutralize it at least. On mine, the A/C cord is still original and since it's not polarized, I marked the prongs so I plug it in the same way.

All the caps in mine look to be in good cond visually and are not exploding when turned on. Gonna see if the little bit of hum can be eliminated by connecting some electros across the cap caps. Its not leaking. If it dont work I;ll leave it . the hum isnt that bad. I'll give it a few weeks to awaken to its newfound life after sitting along time.
Point taken on the hot chassis. Once its back in its box and the back is on no ones gonna be touching it sept me and there wont be nuthin metal to touch then.
My speaker search is over as I found some nice sony 4 ohm 6" round cardoor speakers I had squirilled away. One will fit nicely in the space of the 5x7 and it sounds great. No fuzzy scratchy sound now. Just good audio. So I'm good to go.:banana::music:


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