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Telecolor 3007 02-12-2018 07:56 PM

Number of color sets sold
 
There was in the past on a site (Ed Reitan's one?) a list with the number of color sets sold from 1954 to 1964 (when 100,000 sets where sold, breaking a barier and the number of sets sold countinued to grow). Does any one haves that list?

Electronic M 02-12-2018 08:04 PM

That site now lives here: http://www.earlytelevision.org/ed_reitan.html

Go forth and find the page in it that you seek. :D

old_tv_nut 02-12-2018 08:46 PM

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This chart may interest you.

Telecolor 3007 02-13-2018 02:13 AM

Found it. http://www.earlytelevision.org/Reitan/rcvr_prod.html
In 1964 I think there where sold in one weekend 100,000 color sets, not 100,000 sets in the whole year. It was a boom in 1964... 1st time that "R.C.A." produced more then 1,000,000 color sets. I wonder if the rest of the manufacturers produced in totally more then 250,000 sets.
Here is something intresting to read: https://books.google.ro/books?id=GU-...201964&f=false

Old color sets are intresting. Only if they would have had been cheaper. Lucky that they survived qutye large number. There are only a few countries that have an acceptable number of old color sets (pre 1974-1975) surviving. I think Germany, Holland.

Sheesh, I must be carefoully to write one million like this 1,000,000, not like this 1.000.000 (how we do in Europe).

Pete Deksnis 02-17-2018 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007 (Post 3196139)
There was in the past on a site (Ed Reitan's one?) a list with the number of color sets sold from 1954 to 1964....

In the past, I had spoken to Ed and others about that chart (http://www.earlytelevision.org/Reitan/rcvr_prod.html). Note it was published a dozen years after NTSC color was introduced.

The 5000 figure given in the chart for the CT-100 came, it is clear now, from vintage RCA material released before CT-100 production officially started on March 25, 1954. Eighteen years of collecting data has acquired a set of 180 known survivors.

Interpreting serial numbers and production data stamped on the CTC2 chassis reveals that barely over 4000 CT-100's were produced. But it was truly the world's first mass-produced color television.

As to the second set, the 21-CT-55, let me speculate that the 21AXP22 21-inch metal-cone color CRT was actually introduced in 1954 and by the end of 1954 the 21-CT-55, known sometimes as the 'Spectacular' in a vintage photo, was also available. To confirm, we can/should inspect the CTC2B chassis for their production data stamps.

Pete

Telecolor 3007 02-17-2018 07:39 PM

I thought those where official datas, obtained from the factory.
I'm curios how much did the rest of the manufacturers produced.

zeno 02-19-2018 08:36 PM

The best source for production numbers is probably the old
trade publications that covered TV ( brown goods) sales or
service. Someone can point you to the links. Numbers grew fast
with the intro of rectangle CRT's. About 1966 there was a color TV
shortage mostly due to CRT availability. Dealers would buy ANY
color TV they could find. By the 70's Zenith was probably building
near a million sets a year. Our little shop probably sold 300-400
a year in the 70's. Everything peaked in the mid 80's often selling
10 sets on a good Saturday. After that things slowly went down.
The only time it got better was when LCD sets got bigger, better
& less $$$. That lasted a few years then the whole thing ended.......

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

etype2 02-19-2018 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Deksnis (Post 3196338)
In the past, I had spoken to Ed and others about that chart ([url]http://www.earlytelevision.org/Reitan

As to the second set, the 21-CT-55, let me speculate that the 21AXP22 21-inch metal-cone color CRT was actually introduced in 1954 and by the end of 1954 the 21-CT-55, known sometimes as the 'Spectacular' in a vintage photo, was also available. To confirm, we can/should inspect the CTC2B chassis for their production data stamps.

Pete

As an owner of a 21CT55, where specificly does one find the date codes and how do I interpret them? Also, can you clarify for me the known survivors? I’m not sure what it means on the ETF site that in bold letters, 39 (1) CTC4 appears and then a number of sets appear below. Were a number of 21CTC55 found with CTC4 chassis in it? My cabinet has three matching stampings, “1954”, ironically the same year of production. CTC2B chassis.

Tim 02-20-2018 12:30 AM

The date code is stamped on the rear of the chassis below the chassis designation. My set, with serial number B8801425, is stamped:
CTC2B
501 L
RVB274

501 means 1st week of 1955.

The bottom line means Radiola Victrola division Bloomington. 274 is RCA's EIA manufacturer code.

The CTC4 listings on the ETF site are the other early chassis type with 21" CRT. If you look to the left you can see that the section is RCA 21", not just 21-CT-55.

etype2 02-20-2018 12:57 AM

Thank you Tim.

Mine says 45 1 L. Serial # B8801261.

What is confusing to me is their are 13 owners listed under “39 (1) -CTC-4.”

Tim 02-20-2018 02:28 AM

Looks like yours was made 2 weeks before mine. The serial numbers are 164 apart from each other.

As far as the ETF site: the math does not work out but you need to add the 29 Anonymous owners to get the total. Probably should be a total of 42 (13+29). Possibly the total was not updated when several additional entries were added to the listing.

Pete Deksnis 02-20-2018 11:03 AM

Great! Two more 21-CT-55 serial numbers can be added. Here's the ETF-based list of those known. It will be updated (along with the CT-100 list) by the time of the upcoming May convention.

http://www.earlytelevision.org/pdf/r...march-2011.pdf

Here's a link to the updated 21-CT-55 serial number list:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/rca_21ct55_sns.html

Thanks,
Pete

Tim 02-20-2018 02:08 PM

Does anyone know what the other chassis stamp on the CTC2B chassis refers to? Mine is on the top of the chassis but I have seen others on the rear. Mine reads:

CTR 3A
502 L 6
RVB 274

The date code is a week after the CTC2B date code.

Rework?

Pete Deksnis 02-20-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim (Post 3196488)
Does anyone know what the other chassis stamp on the CTC2B chassis refers to?

There are five production milestone stamps on the CTC2 chassis. For example, one of them indicates when the final assembly took place. Another when final alignment was complete. There may be some differences on the CTC2B chassis, but will be mostly the same I'm sure.

Pete

KentTeffeteller 02-21-2018 10:40 PM

A note, football season was a key selling point for Color TV sales, and sports programming also stimulated set sales, baseball season another sales stimulus. 1965 being the key year all of the big 3 networks went all Color in Prime Time hours.


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