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Titan1a

11-29-2018 09:59 PM

It looks to me like a keeper. It's fairly rare and has good reception.

old_coot88

11-29-2018 11:34 PM

3-gang tuning cap. Doesn't look like there's an RF stage, though.

dieseljeep

11-30-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by init4fun (Post 3206204)

Were the ballast tube burnt out and unobtainable sure I'd run an AC capacitor in it's stead and not think twice about altering the circuit , in my opinion running condition trumps original condition with most tube radios . But , since I'll bet replacements for the original ballast tube are still available , and since the ballast tube carries no built in safety hazard by design like the curtain burner cord does , I'd be inclined to leave the circuit as is and stock up on a couple or few spare ballast tubes while they are still somewhat available .

If the ballast tube is readily available and reasonably priced, then fine. The 165R8 number seems to be a Triad or Hytron number. JFD numbers are different.
When the set was new there was a lot of DC districts, so a resistive dropper had to be used.

dieseljeep

11-30-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by old_coot88 (Post 3206230)

3-gang tuning cap. Doesn't look like there's an RF stage, though.

Wells-Gardner used a four-gang tuning condenser in their high tube count superhets. It seemed that the fourth section was used as some sort of an antenna pre-selector.
I looked at the schematic again and it's not being used at all. I thought maybe, as they built that set as a long-wave model, they used it, but they didn't!
Possibly a chassis layout or an inventory reason. :scratch2:

decojoe67

11-30-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zombie1210 (Post 3206197)

Curtain burner line cord? Sounds ominous.

I've had many working "curtain-burner" radios in my many years of collecting and you could literally lay the cord in a pile of dry paper shreds and nothing will happen. Even after long play time it only gets moderately warm. Pure urban legend that it will burn the house down.
It's the same urban legend with the sheet of asbestos on the top of the inside of the radio in which you better put your Hazmat suit on and dispose of it before it sends you to an early grave!

old_coot88

11-30-2018 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by decojoe67 (Post 3206243)

That's been my experience with 'em also. The gripe is more on the cheezyness factor than any real hazard.

decojoe67

11-30-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by old_coot88 (Post 3206250)

That's been my experience with 'em also. The gripe is more on the cheezyness factor than any real hazard.

I agree. I like those sets with their original thick cloth cords. Right now I have about 5 that work excellent.

init4fun

12-01-2018 06:45 AM

:rolleyes:

dieseljeep

12-01-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by old_coot88 (Post 3206250)

That's been my experience with 'em also. The gripe is more on the cheezyness factor than any real hazard.

The real cheap and nasty four tube TRF's were referred to as "Depression radios". They all used the resistive cord droppers and many were sold for around $10 USD. Many of the ones I ran into the cord was damaged one way or another. Most of the time the resistance wire was pulled loose from the plug connection and the plug was replaced.
If the cord was in good condition in later years, many times the resistance wire was rusted open as the wire was some kind of an iron alloy for ballasting action, just like the ballast tubes had.

dieseljeep

12-01-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by decojoe67 (Post 3206243)

If the builder of the product wanted U/L listing, they couldn't get it on a set equipped as such.

decojoe67

12-01-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3206277)

If the builder of the product wanted U/L listing, they couldn't get it on a set equipped as such.

I'm sure of that. It definitely isn't the greatest idea, but the severity of it has been a little exaggerated over the years by collectors.

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