Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums

Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums (http://www.videokarma.org/index.php)
-   Television Broadcast Gear (http://www.videokarma.org/forumdisplay.php?f=174)
-   -   repair vintage Editor? (http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=270247)

Merrick61 03-17-2018 02:52 PM

repair vintage Editor?
 
I bought a really old school video switcher/ SEG. A Showtime Video Ventures model ..probably back from the 80s or early 90s. All buttons light up but darn if I can get a video signal to pass through the Coax inputs and outputs. Are there any places around that repair these old time switchers? Might just be something loose inside but if I open it up, i know all hell will break loose.

Chip Chester 03-17-2018 06:14 PM

Generally, pro switchers are "simple" and repetitive. Not simple enough for me to fix of course, but reasonable if you can find a manual. And pro manuals are often service manuals, too. Can you post a pic?

Eehh, if it's this thing: https://books.google.com/books?id=XA...ntures&f=false
I take back what I said about 'pro' stuff, unfortunately.

Does 'coax' mean F-type connectors, or RCA, or BNC?

kf4rca 03-19-2018 08:28 AM

If its like the Ampex ACE editor, all your source signals will have to be synchronous with your reference.

Merrick61 03-19-2018 05:31 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Yes F type connector. Older consumer switcher from the 80s


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip Chester (Post 3197273)
Generally, pro switchers are "simple" and repetitive. Not simple enough for me to fix of course, but reasonable if you can find a manual. And pro manuals are often service manuals, too. Can you post a pic?

Eehh, if it's this thing: https://books.google.com/books?id=XA...ntures&f=false
I take back what I said about 'pro' stuff, unfortunately.

Does 'coax' mean F-type connectors, or RCA, or BNC?

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...0&d=1521498662

BBTV 06-18-2018 07:24 PM

Fairly simple to fix with a manual. Without a manual, virtually impossible. It's also possible that it needs external reference (genlock, sync, other) to work, and also possible as mentioned all inputs have to be synchronous. Hopefully there are no specailized or custom IC's in there, as they would be in the "unobtanium" class of components today.

Chip Chester 06-18-2018 10:12 PM

Post a pic of the back -- clear enough to read the labels, etc.
At that vintage, it's pretty unlikely that it has a frame sync on each input, which would mean that all sources would need to be synchronized before entering switcher.

Dave A 06-19-2018 12:48 AM

Not likely F connectors. That is RF and I never saw a device that would direct convert RF to baseband video in the day especially in the prosumer market. This is a 525 baseband unit as the V interval label and sync timing indicator lamp shows. It needs sync somewhere via a camera input or a sync input. Probably RCA connectors on the back. The sync timing adjustment is to get the cameras in phase (tint) sync during a dissolve which is mixing two sources at once. Gotta get them matching in phase. The switcher may generate its own sync to reference to.

Open it up and look for bad solder joints and buldging caps in the power supply. Not much else can happen.

Electronic M 06-19-2018 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave A (Post 3201120)
Not likely F connectors. That is RF and I never saw a device that would direct convert RF to baseband video in the day especially in the prosumer market.

F connectors are usually RF but not always. The Blonder Tongue agile modulators most of us tube TV collectors use to feed our sets use F connectors for audio and baseband video input as well as RF output...Guess they were either too lazy to spec out normal BNC/RCA for the A/V inputs on those or the cable industry hates non-F connectors with a passion...

BBTV 06-19-2018 10:42 AM

In the 'believe it or not' category, back "in the day" there were manufacturers that actually used F connectors for baseband video. Consumer stuff, not broadcast or even pro. A few, not many, but enough to confuse the issue into the 2018's :-D


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:48 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.