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KingAzazel 01-25-2021 09:06 PM

Sony 4tv looks terrible
 
Few year old model well it’s not used much hours .
My newest tv tho
Tried watching u verse cable service on it and it’s super blurry ish , I’d take a picture but iPhone makes it look clearer .
https://www.gadgetreview.com/sony-55x810c-4k-tv-review

Has some blooming on movies but it looks much worse for cable tv
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KingAzazel 01-26-2021 03:41 PM

Sony 4tv looks terrible
 
I take it this is normal why are 4k TVs even sold ?? If they look so bad

No one else have any issues with these new bad looking 4k TVs ???
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KingAzazel 01-28-2021 11:38 PM

Any ideas 💡?


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Electronic M 01-29-2021 12:20 AM

Do you have any way of feeding it 4K to see if that looks good? It could be suffering from the same lousy upscaling that makes VHS internally uprezed by an HD flat screen loose substantially worse than on a CRT set of the same screen size.

old_tv_nut 01-29-2021 10:03 AM

I-Phone shot makes it look better? That's a little suspicious.
Have you tried playing a DVD (not Blu Ray)? How does that look?

How crappy is your U-Verse source? Maybe this set is just revealing that, and you should sit further from the screen.

dieseljeep 01-29-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by old_tv_nut (Post 3231083)
I-Phone shot makes it look better? That's a little suspicious.
Have you tried playing a DVD (not Blu Ray)? How does that look?

How crappy is your U-Verse source? Maybe this set is just revealing that, and you should sit further from the screen.

That's why I still a CRT set!
Most of the programing I watch isn't high def. I have a few convertors to convert HDMI to analog and one that converts HDMI to component video. Toshiba refers to it as Colorstream.

dieseljeep 01-29-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3231085)
That's why I still a CRT set!
Most of the programing I watch isn't high def. I have a few convertors to convert HDMI to analog and one that converts HDMI to component video. Toshiba refers to it as Colorstream.

Have to proof read a little closer I still have a CRT set! :sigh:

zeno 01-29-2021 05:17 PM

I know almost zero about HDTV but... When it came out I noticed high
end sets gave a great pix on digital or NTSC stations. Cheap sets
gave a CRAP NTSC pix but HD was good. I had to be sure crap sets
ran HD or everyone would walk. No big deal as you only made abt
$30 on a 13" set but it may apply here.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

old_tv_nut 01-29-2021 05:32 PM

Some early sets did have poor upscaling, but that should have been fixed in recent years.

JohnCT 01-31-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by old_tv_nut (Post 3231083)

How crappy is your U-Verse source?

Depending on the box they provide, it can look so bad it's nearly unwatchable.

Back about 10 years ago, I got a call to check an RCA with a poor picture. I arrived and the picture was hard to describe. It was an RCA CTC177 which, although low end, were very good performers in general. I did a quick grey scale (it was off) and focus adjustment, but the picture was lifeless with a smear to it. They had no DVD player but had an old VHS in the closet that still worked. I hooked up the VHS with a pre-recorded Western and the VHS blew the U-Verse box away.

I noticed the same on satellite boxes, the Samsung base model being the worst by far.

After that, whenever I did any home service on RPTVs, I had the customer call and complain about poor resolution. They usually got a better box after calling.

John

mgross0 02-02-2021 06:32 PM

Not all HDMI cables can transmit a 4k signal. The cable needs to be rated something like HDMI standard 2.0A or higher for a 4k signal. (it's been a while since I sold that stuff, so the designation may be wrong).

When we displayed these things in store we found that an old cable, no matter the brand or quality, could greatly damage the video quality.

centralradio 02-02-2021 06:53 PM

I have a Toshiba 25 inch set here on cable.No flat screens at the moment on cable ..Digital cable looks fine here with Comcast.Years ago it was blocky/pixalized .They have clean it over the years.Once in a while there is drop out.

Jeffhs 03-28-2023 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeno (Post 3231109)
I know almost zero about HDTV but... When it came out I noticed high
end sets gave a great pix on digital or NTSC stations. Cheap sets
gave a CRAP NTSC pix but HD was good. I had to be sure crap sets
ran HD or everyone would walk. No big deal as you only made abt
$30 on a 13" set but it may apply here.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

I have a 32" Insignia HDTV which makes an excellent picture, both on Spectrum streaming service and on my own DVDs. Never had any trouble with it at all. I am sold on Insignia televisions for just this reason. My first HDTV was also an Insignia, 19-inch; however, I am keeping it for standby use in case the 32" set goes bad (I'm not expecting it to any time soon, as I've had it a few years now and it just keeps going).

BTW, I don't know what it was that made cheap HDTVs give such a poor picture when fed an NTSC (analog) signal, unless the signal processing systems in those sets weren't that good to begin with (poor quality jungle ICs, for example). I would think most HDTVs would produce at least a passable picture if fed a half-decent NTSC signal; of course, if the signal quality is poor, the picture quality will be poor or unusable as well (GIGO: garbage in, garbage out).

I've had Spectrum TV service since I've lived here (20+ years), even before the DTV transition, and have never had even five minutes worth of trouble with it; however, I have Spectrum's lowest level of service ("streaming" service, which does not use a cable box), and couldn't be happier. No cable box means I do not have to be concerned about an extra charge on my bill (this is important to me since I am a senior citizen on a fixed income), not to mention fewer cables dangling around behind the TV.


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