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miniman82 08-06-2017 07:15 PM

You can also power it with HV from another chassis, but it would be best to get the native horizontal circuit functioning.

SwizzyMan 08-06-2017 07:29 PM

Eureka!
 
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Aha! Cant believe I forgot the horizontal mult tube! We now have a nice and relatively bright raster with great height and width! This set sure is a winner!

miniman82 08-06-2017 08:10 PM

There you have it, don't you feel better knowing you won't have to search for a CRT?

SwizzyMan 08-06-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3187700)
There you have it, don't you feel better knowing you won't have to search for a CRT?

A lot better. I would have probably paid close to double what I paid for the set if I needed a new CRT.

SwizzyMan 08-07-2017 10:39 AM

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We are now a consolette!

Phil Nelson 08-07-2017 02:25 PM

Wow, what a great score, and the early signs are encouraging.

To quote Bertie Wooster, "I shall watch your future progress with considerable interest!"

Regards,

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

SwizzyMan 08-07-2017 04:55 PM

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Thanks Phil. Here's another bit of progress. I went ahead and repainted the channel numbers on the channel knob with a gold pen. It was painstakingly difficult, but I think it turned out nice.

consoleguy67 08-07-2017 06:04 PM

Very nice work on that channel knob!

Electronic M 08-08-2017 12:17 AM

Amazing purchase!

I'm Jelly.....Matter of fact "I'm the slime" <--Frank Zappa (it is a funny song) :D

Once I'm back on my feet with finances I'll have to make you an offer on it.

DavGoodlin 08-08-2017 11:57 AM

Awesome detail work. It encourages me as I typically get them working and move on to another TV. Seeing the Sams Schematic for this TV in my file 35+ years ago, I was sure Id never hear of a survivor and here it is.

SwizzyMan 08-08-2017 06:34 PM

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Thanks everyone. I spent most of my day today staining and refinishing the legs I bought for the set. I needed to darken their color to better match the color of the set. It isn't perfect, but I am by no means a professional woodworker. I had to use gold spray paint to shine up the brass inserts on the legs since the original plating was so thin it came off when I applied brasso to shine it up. The photos don't exactly indicate a big change in the color in the wood, but in person there is a definite difference.

BigDavesTV 08-09-2017 11:56 AM

So glad to see a raster on that set!:) Looks good with legs and freshly painted channel numbers too!

Robert Grant 08-09-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by walterbeers (Post 3187678)
Gee $50-$100 for bumble bee and wax caps? Most always they are bad, leaky, or way off value. When I get a TV or radio with those in it I replace them with modern types. Gosh I have thrown tons of those away. I should have saved them and became rich!


I had been watching a TV show a few years back, about people who use vintage electric guitar amplifiers.
They showed someone wanting to sell some amplifiers, and the buyers were interested, but demanded they be allowed to open the amplifiers to check the electronics inside.
When they opened them up, metal can (w/plastic cover) lytics were revealed. The prospective buyers refused to buy the amplifiers at any price, protesting that only paper lytics gave "The sound"!

Don't they know they can get "The sound" back by running a line from the power cord, through a resistor, to the grids of the input tubes?

Anyone who invested their money into a McIntosh, Scott or Fender amplifier "back in the day" certainly didn't want "The sound" A 60Hz buzz. There's a sucker born every minute!

Electronic M 08-09-2017 03:27 PM

There are 2 schools of tube amp design that depend on the customer: HiFi source listener, or musician.

The HiFi listener wants the minimum distortion achievable when playing back their LPs, etc.

The musician wants lots of distortion, but very specific types, tuned so that the amp becomes an extension of the instrument they intend to play through it.

Ever wonder why most electric guitar (especially in rock music) sounds nothing like acoustic?....The amp's distortion is the answer. Many electric guitars sound like an acoustic if not passed through an amp that imparts the correct distortion.

The pre-amp stages of many guitar amps are purposely designed to go into clipping at higher settings of their sub volume control...That clipping adds desirable characteristics to the sound...The output stage clipping also has some bearing on the sound (those amps outputs are often also intentionally driven to clipping), and the stiffness of the power supply regulation/filtering will affect that. In some pre-amp stages having leaky paper caps is key to achieving the distortion wanted: the caps will act like diodes above a certain voltage threshold and change the wave shape of the signal passed.

Most musicians are, when it comes to electronics, completely non-technical people (and some of their tastes are based more on experience/superstition than science), but if you take an amp that has "the sound" they want and analyze how it changes the waveform of the signal it is passing and how the bad caps in it affect that, then it is possible to build modern amps with "the sound" and reliable parts....I know someone who does that type of work.

Sorry to go OT.

SwizzyMan 08-10-2017 02:35 PM

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Well since pretty much all of the cosmetic work on this set is done, I can finally move it into my room. It will sit next to the Pensbury for now. Its pretty crammed in here now :D. It will eventually take the place of the CTC-5 which will be moving up north to Minnesota here soon. Now it awaits its electrical restoration once the 4 is done (which should be very soon).


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