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heats00 11-01-2016 10:43 PM

Recapped power supply in Blonder Tongue AM60-550B and no more picture
 
I just picked up a Blonder Tongue and after my initial setup noticed the 60 Hz bars in my picture. So before I get this set up in its final place I figured I would replace the electrolytics on the power supply board. After reassembling everything, I now have sound but no picture, and the modulation lights are lit up even with the dials bottomed out. I get a nasty audio buzz on the TV when I turn the AGC control off on the back of the unit, and the status light has a fast flash. I have been trying to use channel 7, but the problem is consistent between channels. What did I screw up?

Electronic M 11-02-2016 08:26 AM

Did you observe polarity when changing the caps? Did you use good quality new replacement caps?

heats00 11-02-2016 11:09 AM

I used Nichicon UHW series caps for the 2200uf 35v and 1000uf 35v and UPM series for the 100uf 63v. I am fairly certain that I have polarity correct and have double checked twice now.

N2IXK 11-02-2016 11:10 AM

Plug all the connectors back in properly?

Output voltages from power supply all present?

Electronic M 11-02-2016 11:27 AM

Another thought is that if one of the caps NOT in the power supply that is still original has shorted/become leaky it could be sagging PS voltages globally or locally (if there is a resistor between it and the PS rail) which could cause hum and similar symptoms.

I often look at all the lytics in the unit with an ESR/leakage tester when changing caps.

heats00 11-02-2016 02:08 PM

https://goo.gl/photos/4jtJQiQGPmxqE7xs5
Other than the smaller caps on the power supply board, the only other large value electrolytics are on the AGC board. I suspect one or a few of these may be bad. I don't think anything is connected erroneously on the power supply board as there was only 2 connecters, and one wire lead.

N2IXK 11-02-2016 02:18 PM

Are the power rails coming up properly? Measure the voltages at the 3 test points on the power supply board. If not, try rechecking with the output connectors (the single wire and the small 4 pin one with the grey wires) disconnected, to see if the issue is in the power supply, or an excessive load somewhere else in the circuit.

Did you replace the SMD electrolytics, as well? They can fail just like the larger through-hole ones do....

heats00 11-02-2016 02:27 PM

I did not replace the SMD type, will have to put together an order for them. I will check voltages tonight first though.

Electronic M 11-02-2016 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heats00 (Post 3172743)
https://goo.gl/photos/4jtJQiQGPmxqE7xs5
Other than the smaller caps on the power supply board, the only other large value electrolytics are on the AGC board. I suspect one or a few of these may be bad. I don't think anything is connected erroneously on the power supply board as there was only 2 connecters, and one wire lead.

Definitely check the PS test point voltages.

Size/value of the lytic don't matter. If it becomes electrically leaky or shorted it can cause problems...Yeah the big ones are the first you want to do, but if that fails the smalls also deserve consideration....If you changed the filters on a tube radio or TV and that did not completely fix it, you would change the papers next, right?...Same thing here.

heats00 11-02-2016 09:42 PM

Took voltage readings. 30v @ 30v, 5v @ 5v, 11v @ 12v, and 19v @ 18v.

dtvmcdonald 11-03-2016 10:57 AM

The video and RF connectors on these things tend to be flaky.
Try DeOxit and wiggling.

I got so fed up with two that I replaced the F connectors with
BNCs.

heats00 11-07-2016 08:24 AM

I was hoping it would be something as simple as cleaning the video and RF connecters, but it made no change. The voltages I read off the power supply board seemed to be okay. Not sure what else to try at this point other than to replace the remaining electrolytics.

N2IXK 11-08-2016 12:03 PM

I don't think that schematics for these units are available online, unfortunately....


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