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Electronic M 04-16-2015 06:00 PM

How to make a degauss coil for servicing out of a junk BPC TV
 
I think this is worthy of sticky status.

How many of us, especially newbies and those that rarely work on color sets have found our selves in the position of needing to degauss a screen manually, but not having a proper service degaussing coil?....Well I've seen enough to want to offer some help.

You can find junk 80's and newer BPC sets for dirt cheap to free at the curb everywhere these days. Most 20" and up use an over sized degauss coil, and I'm going to show you how to make that into a convenient servicing coil.
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...psntwoy3ib.jpg http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6zeushyv.jpg
The above photos show a degauss coil pirated from a 20" BPC set, and a quarter for size, and the same two objects with a vintage servicing degauss coil for comparison.

Start by un-looping the original and smoothing out the corners.
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...psilsvgbzi.jpg http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2bwmkltc.jpg

Then fold it into three turns.
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...ps07mb28wd.jpg

Pull it smooth and uniform, and wrap it in couple of spots with electrical tape to hold it like that.
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...ps27wdmbey.jpg

Notice how it is the same diameter as the service coil (the two I've done are both like that)?
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...psuf6ennco.jpg

Then put one even layer of electrical tape around/along it to encapsulate it, and add a cord. If you want you can add a switch too.

Note: the copper in the photos below is an isolated extra winding I added over the layer of electrical tape to make the coil into an air core transformer for an experiment to test an idea I had...If I unwrap that copper a normal black degauss can be found underneath. When I can I'll add or replace those pictures with a better representation of the finished product.
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...psfewfoddb.jpg http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...psbnisp0dh.jpg

This is not as good as a proper service coil in that it gets hot in 1-5 minutes, and could pose a fire hazard if left plugged in after that. In most degauss jobs I do I only need 30 seconds to a minute, so this is enough to get the job done, and I HAVE used it a few times. When using it keep a hand on it at all times* it is plugged in to make sure it is not overheating. *except when it starts to get too hot to hold, at that point drop it and unplug it immediately.
If you did not get the degauss job done before overheat just unplug the coil let it cool well and do it again....Or go out and buy a proper servicing coil.

Jon A. 04-16-2015 09:26 PM

I was wondering if this sort of thing could be done since I saw the link to a coil on eBay.

I think a momentary switch would be a good addition to this one.

Electronic M 03-23-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon A. (Post 3131650)
I was wondering if this sort of thing could be done since I saw the link to a coil on eBay.

I think a momentary switch would be a good addition to this one.

I agree. It would probably be best to tape wrap it onto the coil so you can hold it with the coil.

Jon A. 03-23-2017 04:34 PM

Ah yes, easy one-handed operation.

I'd like to add that it is important to use an *oversize* coil as Tom instructed. A while back I used a coil from a 19" set that was only big enough to surround the CRT as it was all I had. Even at a lowered line voltage, it pegged the meter on my Powerite and got too hot to hold in about 10 seconds. It's a wonder it didn't trip the breaker.

By the way, I've heard of using a 100-watt light bulb in series with the coil as a current limiter.

tubetwister 08-10-2017 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3131634)
I think this is worthy of sticky status.

How many of us, especially newbies and those that rarely work on color sets have found our selves in the position of needing to degauss a screen manually, but not having a proper service degaussing coil?....Well I've seen enough to want to offer some help.

That could be useful if you ever tried to find a cheap service degauss coil today ,then you know :yes:

For my #1 TV I use a retina searing 2016 4K HDR 1000+ 1474 NIT 7000:1 contrast panel code binned SUHD QDOT Samsung UN 55 KS 8000 LCD in my inner groove and a tamer 2015 Sony Triluminos 4K HDR LCD in the family cinema room and 1080p LCD around the home .

I benched TV's & radios part time from 1967-1970 at a Magnavox AD and studied electronics concurrently (3 yrs) but an unrelated career that retired me well with surplus $$$ and so on.

No hobby CRT here but I can't say I wouldent mind a bonded safety glass color roundie out back .I had a used 21" RCA round delta gun with a newer RCA colortron CRT in the early 70's and it wasn't bad until the PCB's started crumbing fatally :D

ON topic
That said I've used a Weller soldering gun sideways ,then walked back like a conventional decausss coil on a late model philips CRT to take a large purple /green spot out of the screen from a magnetized shadow mask for a friend's secondary TV from unshielded speakers too close and it worked:thmbsp:

wa2ise 02-13-2019 04:33 PM

You could use the degauss coil and its thermistor in a vintage color TV set as an automatic degausser. Arrange it similar to how it was in the BPC, behind the CRT. If there was a degauss coil in the TV, and the thermistor is bad, the thermistor from the BPC should work as a replacement.

old_coot88 02-13-2019 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon A. (Post 3131650)
I think a momentary switch would be a good addition to this one.

Agree wholeheartedly. Also it's important to mention - be sure the coil's at least 6' away from the set before energizing the coil, then move in slowly and do the degaussing, then move it back at least 6' before de-energizing it. Otherwise you can end up 'gaussing' the jug instead of degaussing it. :eek:

dtvmcdonald 05-24-2019 09:51 AM

I have another way of making a degaussing (deTeslaing?) device.

Find a big (emphasis big) old power transformer, preferably filament but any will do.
It only has to have a good primary. Several pounds is best but any will do.

It has to be made with E-I cores. Take it apart and simply remove the I part of the core.

Carefully tape up any unused windings, attach a cord to the primary, and plug it in.

Up close this will demagnetize lots of things that CRT degaussers won't,
and its field equal a CRT degausser far enough away to degauss CRTs.
It will bulk erase VCR tapes. It will seriously damage 2" quad videotapes.

Same distance on-off advice applies.

dieseljeep 05-24-2019 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtvmcdonald (Post 3211576)
I have another way of making a degaussing (deTeslaing?) device.

Find a big (emphasis big) old power transformer, preferably filament but any will do.
It only has to have a good primary. Several pounds is best but any will do.

It has to be made with E-I cores. Take it apart and simply remove the I part of the core.

Carefully tape up any unused windings, attach a cord to the primary, and plug it in.

Up close this will demagnetize lots of things that CRT degaussers won't,
and its field equal a CRT degausser far enough away to degauss CRTs.
It will bulk erase VCR tapes. It will seriously damage 2" quad videotapes.

Same distance on-off advice applies.

I use a bulk tape eraser they resembles a travel iron. Picked it up at one of the thrifts. It works very well. I have two, one brand new in the box. Naturally, Radio Shack brand. I also use it for it's intended purpose. :thmbsp:

Dave A 11-12-2019 06:17 PM

And the emergency Weller soldering gun trick.


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