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Old 10-03-2019, 07:06 PM
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the cameras used are Bosch Fernseh KC4 P40
Which did not stay for long. It seems that by the mid-seventies they were all gone, replaced by KCK which then stayed well into the nineties.


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Unfortunately when color TV did arrive in Germany in 1967 they were stuck in the development of a 3 image orthicon camera which was a "dead end street".
However, some sources really exaggerate things when stating that it was a completely foolish idea to develop a colour camera with Orthicon tubes at all. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF_9wRVnazQ (The poor results on the 1964-1965 exhibit mentioned above came from a Vidicon camera.)

It was almost 30 years ago when I saw an old American programme and was very much surprised: Uh, it's in colour and has Orthicon halos?! Of course this was on TV and there was no chance to ever have heard of the RCA TK-41...

It became a dead end when Philips had developed the Plumbicon tube. Other camera manufacturers realized very quickly that it made any further attempts with Orthicons and classic antimonium trisulfate Vidicons obsolete. Perhaps this took Fernseh GmbH a bit longer.


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In an act of desperation Bosch Fese hastily issued a modified version of the American General Electric PE 350 in order to have anything to offer to their European customers whom they were losing mainly to Philips.
The desperation was related to the launch of West German colour TV in 1967: Their IO prototypes had been rejected (probably unmanageable registration was the main reason), and so LDK-3 captured the famous pressing of the fake button https://youtu.be/qWQuYRtNTpI?t=103 (see the film footage at 5:50 herein).

Has anyone outside Germany purchased these Fernseh-branded GE cameras? I have never seen them in footage/pictures from any other country.


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(Of course when finally introduced in 1969, the 3 plumbicon KCU40 went on to become one of, if not THE color camera workhorse in continental europe in the 70's.)
This may be a bit exaggerated when looking beyond Germany (in this case both parts of it). Some KCU 40 have been purchased by at least one Dutch broadcasting organization, some also went to the USSR (after they at Darmstadt were pretty surprised to receive an invitation for tender from Moscow); are other users in continental Europe known? And here only referring to the KCU 40, not the later KCK.

One small operation in the UK had them, too, and you will find a bad dissing of these cameras from there. For such things like an overcast November sky blowing out and even producing comet tails when panning...

I think it had been mentioned here before that also a 525 lines version had some success in the USA?


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P.S. What you see
Not anymore, the uploader has hidden his video from the public in the meantime...

But here's another KC-4P classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1GEiO1vmI


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Compare that to BBC's Top of the Pops (to make a mean comparison)
Such a comparison with Beat Club is indeed a mean one.
https://youtu.be/6T47NWZJAK8?t=149
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