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Old 05-13-2017, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kf4rca View Post
I was fortunate that my station didn't jump on the Beta format till the BVV5/BVP5 (BVW505) combo came out.
And with it the big, ugly red smear. Colours were inferior to Plumbicons as well. The BVP-7 was quite an improvement over the 5.


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Originally Posted by dauberich View Post
Both the 6000 and the BVP-3 have great colour for a saticon camera.
I think this is actual BVP-3 video, with the revealing Saticon streaking in the night footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGDtih0Sgis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4vhlMlxTxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5avZobt5XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFKeH0RmJI0


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Originally Posted by dauberich View Post
The BVP-300 I think was the predecessor of the 330. No autocentering and maybe some other not yet features.
While the 330 could be used with the same CCU than the BVP-360 I think.

Can't find it back, but it had been asked here as well: With an adaptor, docked instead of the Betacam recorder, the BVP-3(0) could also be used as production camera.


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Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007 View Post
If you mentioned H.D. tube cameras, I'm curios how the image provided by one is.
In Europe we had "Bosch" KCH 1000. Plumbicon and saticon. Never seen images taken with one.
If you believe http://euscreen.eu/item.html?id=EUS_...CC0B0334818E83, where these cameras can be seen at 1:40, several hours of programming had been produced with them every day during IFA 1991. I only saw Bosch KCK, Philips LDK 6 and RCA TK 47 there...

Once a talkshow appeared that had indeed been recorded with this gear, as the continuity announcement proudly mentioned. The 16:9 image, letterboxed into the PAL signal (not even PALplus at this time), could be described as looking like KCM 125 pictures. No surprise, considering that even the housing of this last hurray from Darmstadt had been used for the very early HD cameras that have hardly ever been seen in Europe itself.

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Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007 View Post
B.t.w., some tube cameras had very vivid colours, which I like.
Well, the BBC did not like the Marconi Mark VII for this reason...
The skin tones shown by these cameras could indeed be questionable, although this one (which also experiments with shots that simply could not be done with IOs) got them quite right I think:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/alvem/video/43/2343.html

Or the vivid colours of the Fernseh KCU 40, a camera also disliked in the UK (ot at least at some local station there), for reasons that are beyond me:
https://my.mail.ru/mail/tina-12366/video/10/7598.html

This video is also a nice example for comet tails.

Like yet another one, from the same venue but this time dirty stuff where the KCU 40 / KCR had to cope with adverse lighting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32x5moK8P2I

Note also the horizontal bars that pop up time and again, such as at 27:30. That's another characteristic effect, in German called Mikrofonie. When it gets really loud it can cause the tubes in the camera to vibrate, and these bars appear in the picture.

And in case you also note the occasional blue and red spikes, although the digital compression widely swallowed them in these videos: This is known as "SECAM fire", in this case appearing on tape drop-outs.
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