i told my mom what you said and she says that was nice of you.but yea with all of this talk about zenith's im gonna go out and search for another one.all of my roundies that ive had over the years ive found on the road,like the one polorman has,i had to lift that sucker by myself,and its wierd when i find something like that the excitement in me gives me extra strength.but it seems that dallas didnt have a lot of roundies......