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The "cheap" TV's had a great picture too......
I fixed up the '66 Airline console today and brought it back to life after sitting idle for over 30 years. After looking into it, for some reason the set has ALL original tubes on the chassis. However, its had its fair share of repairs back in the 60's. Its quite the economy TV for its time. First things first, the set had to be brought up slowly on a variac. Luckily all the lytics came back well. After initial power up, the audio was terrible and distorted caused by a leaky 5uf@25v lytic in the cathode of the 6BQ5 audio output. yes, a cheap TV that uses a 6BQ5, I was surprised too. A simple tuner cleaning helped greatly. The convergence was way off, the purity ring support disinigrated and the lateral magnet was missing, fell out of its metal frame. Luckily, I have a good supply of misc. rings and magnets for the old color sets. the CRT is basically like new. Its a "Wards Airline" crt EIA 337, made by westinghouse (!) which I was not aware that they produced CRTs. Only problem next to the audio was a rather dark picture caused by the video output tube. The 12BY7 needed to be replaced.
I was pleased to see the TV come back to life with a great color picture. The focus dialed in as good as you could hope for. This set probably cost somewhere around $250 new? Im amazed such a cheapy of a TV still survived in such nice shape, and the picture quality is as good as a zenith or RCA of the same time period.
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Nice job, Doug! What does the schematic look like? Partly an RCA clone, or very different? Would be interested to see what color circuits look like.
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Schweet! Looks great Doug!
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Wayne,
The chassis is essentially a perfect clone of a CTC16. the ctc16 PW700 (chroma board) is an exact match to the board in this airline. the HV cage is a unique design, which is about the only difference between the two and the tuner assembly. The IF and deflection boards are also an exact match to a ctc16. Its interesting to note, that the component indentifications also match that of the ctc16. Filters C124, C118, C136 are labeled exactly the same on the airline schematic and the rca ctc16 schematic. So I guess there is no reason for me saying the picture is as "good" as an rca. It is an RCA! (for the most part). |
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The dyin' days of the roundie..Great save !
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Doug,
Nice job bringing that Airline set back. Beautiful picture. I recall back in the mid 60's walking into a Wards store and right at the front door was a price leader roundie on display. I think it was priced at $249. or so. It had a black fiber board cabinet and NO frills grey plastic trim and knobs. That set really stuck in my memory. -Steve D.
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Doug, what is the history of the set? Where did it come from??? ...and Merry Christmas and a Happy New year to all from the land downunder
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Wards Airline sets
our first family color set was an Airline in 1964, a CTC-15 chassis. Beautiful color picture on that set. I remember we turned it on for the first time to see Bonanza; when the peacock came on the picture was all green and stayed that way until Wards came out; I remember he replaced a tube or maybe two and from then on perfect. I used that set until 1987 long after my parents bought a rectangular screen set in 1974 when I bought my own house and the roundie went with me. When I built a Heath 25 inch set in 1977, that roundie was relegated to the bedroom; eventually it played out in 1987 and I put it in a storage shed. I ravaged parts out of it to repair other people's roundies. So enthralled with my heath set was I that I never thought of the future of the roundies. Eventually took what was left to the junk yard like a fool; it was a metal cabinet so no great loss there. I've still got the 1977 Heath set in the garage, hasn't been turned on in 18 or 19 years. I think the pix tube was getting weak was reason I got another newer set. The new set was a Sharp and its still being used on our back porch at 20 years old; I stopped using it in 1998 when I bought a WebTV system and it looked terrible thru that set. But that Airline set was great and a big regret is junking it back in the 80's.
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Nice job
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Back then I think a lot of those sets were made by Wells-Gardner. The Sears, Airlines and Cm all had the same type of lay-out and circuit boards, the Cm entertainment system I have has a plastic bezel around the Crt.
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I have an 1964 Airline round set in a black enameled metal cabinet which is probably a bottom of the line model...I agree with Andy, it looks a lot better than some of the monstrous wood cabinets!
Looking at a Sears catalog from 1965 (My Wards catalog from 1964 for some reason did not include color sets, they were in a separate brochure) The cheapest 21" round set is $329.95 and the most expensive is $539.95. The only things the most expensive set seems to have over the cheapest is a cabinet with legs, an extra speaker on the left side and automatic degaussing. All of these sets as far as I know used the exact same chassis (which is a CTC-15 clone). I guess they sold the "sizzle" rather than the "steak"...as the cheapest set's performance would be almost identical with the most expensive. Here are some scans of the round sets in the 1965 Sears catalog. http://nipper.freeshell.org/pictures...nd_round-2.jpg http://nipper.freeshell.org/pictures...sets_small.jpg |
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This brings up an interesting question - did anyone in the US public at the time even REALIZE that all color TV sets were more or less exactly the same, and that all the advertised 'color guard' and all gimmicks were basically nothing?
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I really like oddballs like this Airline. I still kick myself for not buying an Airline rectangular console from about 66-67-showed up a number of years ago at the local auction house, and I most certainly could have bought it for a dollar.
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Consumer Reports magazine probably did tests, and they have traditionally been good at identifying "clone" appliances, so maybe they concentrated on other ways of seeing differences-cabinet quality, warranties, alignment/reception quality, etc.
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Remember the big 4 for manufacturing tubes and CRT's: RCA, Sylvania, GE and Westinghouse. When they would tool up for production, they all knew what each was doing and would trade so the Westinghouse CRT could have been another product that was traded. I remember opening up a Zenith tube (6JU8 maybe) and it was branded "Admiral". Dan Geddings was the biggest Zenith serviceguy here then and we turned it back in for a "Zenith" tube as that made him mad! He was a dyed in the wool Zenith guy.
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