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peverett · #**871** 12-06-2011, 09:09 PM

Good luck with those "Giant Circle" Zeniths. The metal-glass CRTs they use are hard to find.

***Eric H*** · #**872** 12-06-2011, 10:00 PM

I just got this cute little 1.5" Broksonic, the thing's darn near mint condition including the battery compartment and Vinyl protective cover but it's missing the cover that snaps over the front.

Haven't powered it up yet but I expect it'll work.
Edit: it does work, it even has a lingering dot when switched off. Also has a SW Radio band.

DavGoodlin · #**873** 12-09-2011, 08:34 AM

Attached are photos of my 17DX12, 19B1 chassis. Found at flea market in 1979 and I did a h-a recap

on it then but it worked nice. I am in process of doing it again to VK standards.

I have an enlarged copy of the sams 210 so I can see all the capacitors that need to be changed. This set has about 10 electrolytics.Attachment 172434

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Most of these sets were sold in the Philadelphia area, and are VHF only.

The attached photos: Admiral 17DX12, 1950 Emerson 644 (unchecked), Philco 53T1826 2-chassis(unchecked), 1951 Motorola 17T6 w/metal CRT (had this one working 35 years ago), Sentinel 1U522 w/UHF and the RCA 9PC41 projection set(future major restore).

DavGoodlin · #**874** 12-09-2011, 08:36 AM

Attached are photos of my 17DX12, 19B1 chassis. Found at flea market in 1979 and I did a h-a recap

on it then but it worked nice. I am in process of doing it again to VK standards.

I have an enlarged copy of the sams 210 so I can see all the capacitors that need to be changed. This set has about 10 electrolytics.Attachment 172434

Attachment 172435 Attachment 172436 Attachment 172437 Attachment 172438

Most of these sets were sold in the Philadelphia area, and are VHF only.

The attached photos: Admiral 17DX12, 1950 Emerson 644 (unchecked), Philco 53T1826 2-chassis(unchecked), 1951 Motorola 17T6 w/metal CRT (had this one working 35 years ago), Sentinel 1U522 w/UHF and the RCA 9PC41 projection set(future major restore).

M3-SRT8 · #**875** 12-09-2011, 05:57 PM

Here's one of mine, a RA-105B7 DuMont "Sussex."

wa2ise · #**876** 12-09-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M3-SRT8

Wow, my father had that same set of rabbit ears, with the big coil. He used it on the FM tuner. Don't think the coil did anything, as it would be a high impedace at VHF.

***Eric H*** · #**877** 12-09-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by M3-SRT8

Here's one of mine, a RA-105B7 DuMont "Sussex."

That's the ultimate TV lamp!

bandersen · #**878** 12-10-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by peverett

Good luck with those "Giant Circle" Zeniths. The metal-glass CRTs they use are hard to find.

Alas, the metal-glass 16EP4 has virtually 0 emission. All is not lost though. Amazingly a few months ago I stumbled across a porthole chassis with good 16EP4 at an estate sale

As for the smaller porthole, it uses an all glass 12LP4, but it's flaky. I'm hoping the erratic readings are just due to some bad connections in the very loose base.

M3-SRT8 · #**879** 12-11-2011, 03:03 AM

Yup. The antenna is a "Delta Beam" from the 50's, I believe.

Obviously, it's strictly for show. I restored it completely, just as I did the DuMont Televisor and the Dealer Sign.

dieseljeep · #**880** 12-11-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn

Decent looking blond RCA I worked over during the holidays.

Been watching it ever since. I find B&W seems to be easier on the eyes.

Kevin

I used to do a lot of work for elderly people. They claimed that color TV was too hard on their eyes. I still feel that a properly adjusted color set is just as easy on my eyes.

Jeffhs · #**881** 12-11-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cchaven

From front, to the deepest part of the cover over the CRT neck, it measures about 11" Since you don't see the bulge in the back panel in most pics, it looks deceptively thin. It uses the shallower 110 degree CRT. I think it's an interesting set though, especially the handle with the antenna.

Jeff

I had a Philco "Briefcase 19" portable in the early '70s, a trash find. Don't know if it was the Seventeener's predecessor or successor.

Since I had a color set (RCA CTC12 clone Silvertone roundie) as well at the time, I didn't use the Philco much, until the Silvertone developed a serious problem in 1973. Used the Philco until mid-1975, then I moved and trashed the set shortly thereafter, IIRC. VK, or the Internet for that matter, did not exist at that time -- if they had, I'd have tried to save both sets, or at least the Philco; the Silvertone was too big and heavy to move, and besides, I didn't know enough about TV repair (beyond tube switching) at that time to even try to repair the problem, a large crack in a video PC board.

jr_tech · #**882** 12-11-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffhs

I had a Philco "Briefcase 19" portable in the early '70s, a trash find. Don't know if it was the Seventeener's predecessor or successor.

The 19" tubes of that era were about the size of the earlier 17" versions, but with the corners "squared off". In similar fashion, the 23" CRTs were "squared off" but otherwise similar in size to the earlier 21s.

Found an ad for the Philco "briefcase 19" ... looks very similar to a "Seventeener III" except for the corners of the CRT.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...v-television-1

The predecessor to the "Slender Seventeener" was the much deeper "Seventeener" as shown at the bottom of this ad:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Philco-...item3caef5b772

not affiliated,
jr

Jeffhs · #**883** 12-11-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jr_tech

The 19" tubes of that era were about the size of the earlier 17" versions, but with the corners "squared off". In similar fashion, the 23" CRTs were "squared off" but otherwise similar in size to the earlier 21s.

Found an ad for the Philco "briefcase 19" ... looks very similar to a "Seventeener III" except for the corners of the CRT.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...v-television-1

The predecessor to the "Slender Seventeener" was the much deeper "Seventeener" as shown at the bottom of this ad:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Philco-...item3caef5b772

not affiliated,
jr

Thanks much for the info. That Worthpoint ad shows a set exactly like my Briefcase 19 (now long gone), only it shows the set in a slightly different color cabinet (mine was, IIRC, green and white) and the TV in the ad has all its front knobs, whereas mine was missing the channel selector and, again IIRC, the fine tuning. (Perhaps some kid filched the knobs before I got to the set?) I was able to use on the Philco a channel knob from another old TV I had scrapped some time earlier. I don't know exactly why I trashed that Philco in 1976 or thereabouts; the set probably would have been a collector's item today, although both elements of the built-in "Scantenna" handle antenna on mine were missing when I found the TV. No matter; I used rabbit ears with it until I got rid of it, and the set worked perfectly -- both in the Cleveland suburb where the TV replaced my Silvertone color roundie,

and in my old neighborhood when I moved back there in 1975.

BTW and a bit OT: I was looking through the ads on eBay.com, looking for a similar Philco Briefcase 19 ad, but didn't find one. However, I did see one ad for "The Seventeener", which looked somewhat like the Briefcase 19, except of course for the CRT, which in the Seventeener was two inches smaller.

I also noticed that, while searching the eBay site for "Philco tv", I found absolutely no actual Philco televisions for auction -- only Philco magazine ads and service info, much of the latter being Sams Photofacts. Are there no more antique or vintage Philco b&w or color televisions left in this country anymore? I realize folks are replacing their old CRT sets with flat-panel digital ones when the former go bad, but I cannot believe all the old Philcos (except those which may now be in the hands of our members here at VK) are gone.

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