Does any one owns tube portable radios that have F.M.?

[Telecolor 3007]

Yeah, that why F.M. (U.K.W.) took of in Germany. Pitty they didn't used 88-108 M.Hz. (M.c) from the very start
What did you with that radio?

[TV-collector]

About all german companies made tube radios with FM. They all work very well.
Akkord made only!!!! portable Radios.
I own the rare manual incl. all Akkord radio stuff.

Regards,
TV-collector

[Telecolor 3007]

You can put in series 10 9 Volts batteries

[Josef]

I own Austrias first all tube FM portable radio:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/radion...?language_id=2

and its hybrid successor

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/radione_r25t.html

This radio offers not only a built in mains transformer but also a transistorized DC/DC converter which obivated the anode battery

[Telecolor 3007]

Originally Posted by Josef

I own Austrias first all tube FM portable radio:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/radion...?language_id=2

and its hybrid successor

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/radione_r25t.html

This radio offers not only a built in mains transformer but also a transistorized DC/DC converter which obivated the anode battery

1st times I've read Australia and I wondered how come portable tube radios with F.M. in 1957 since in Australia F.M. camed only in 1975.
But it was Austria. The radio had 5 or 6 tubes for radio frequency as I can see. Most had only 4. How did it worked on radio? And what F.M. frequency range it had?

[Josef]

Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007

1st times I've read Australia and I wondered how come portable tube radios with F.M. in 1957 since in Australia F.M. camed only in 1975.
But it was Austria. The radio had 5 or 6 tubes for radio frequency as I can see. Most had only 4. How did it worked on radio? And what F.M. frequency range it had?

I finished the restoration of the hybrid set 2 weeks ago. It's now possible to directly compare the tube version with the hybrid.
Both sets work surprisingly good, espcially the sound quality of the tube set is impressive, even though the output tube is not really strong to save battery capacity.
To the restoration: Both sets usually have massive problems with a built in rechargable battery which leaks out it's acid that causes a lot of corrosion usually. Also the handle is usually broken as well as the antenna.
Finding a good example can be time consuming and expensive too also these radios are quite wanted and sell fast usually.

[Sandy G]

Dummy me....I have, what I consider to be a really PRIMO all Tooob AM-FM radio-a Newcomb model AFM-1500. I got this Bad Boi about 5-10 yrs back from a Facebook local, who knew I'm into old radio/TV junque. Newcomb also made school record players & whatnot, their stuff was always good quality & "Built to Take It" This set has an AM section that rivals any of my Boatanchors, & the FM section is equally good. I used to have it on my nightstand, & would go to sleep to Art Bell/George Noory by it, on WLAC 1510 in Nashville. They came in the best here in Greater Bugtussle, but my wife won't let me play it anymore. But SHE can listen to her I-thingy doodad, it ain't FAIR, dammittall.... (Grin) Anyhow, if you ever run into one of these sets, I HIGHLY recommend you get it. If you don't want it, I'll happily beg, borrow, buy, steal it off you. They're portable-Well, "Luggable" would be more like it, but they're a DANDY radio, roughly the size of a moderately large tool box. Mine is rather "1960" looking, Kent T. looked 'em up, & I think mine went for $270 or so back then, a princely sum for a radio in 1960...

[Telecolor 3007]

Oh, it's 88-100 M.Hz. (M.c.).
I wondered if for Europeanen domestic market some one produced F.M. 88-108 M.Hz. portable tube radios. The Swedish produced some F.M. 88-108 tube radios for it's market, but I could'nt find out if they made portable tube radios with that band.

[mr_rye89]

An FM tube portable..... I could get into that!

I've got an early 60s Zenith tube clock radio that does FM quite well, It's on my desk at work.

Other FM/tube sets I have are consoles. The first one is a Zenith AM/FM with a V-M Cobramatic record changer from 1950. Uses the Armstrong type circuit. The second one is the Philco 42-390 cabinet with a 42-380 chassis with a Pilot FM tuner rigged to it

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007

Oh, it's 88-100 M.Hz. (M.c.).
I wondered if for Europeanen domestic market some one produced F.M. 88-108 M.Hz. portable tube radios. The Swedish produced some F.M. 88-108 tube radios for it's market, but I could'nt find out if they made portable tube radios with that band.

I remember seeing a German AM-SW-FM portable radio in the mid-50's. The cabinet was wood and plastic construction.
I asked to see the inside and it was all tube and used an odd-ball battery pack of German with a 103 volt "B" section.
This was at the Olson Radio store in downtown Milwaukee.

[Telecolor 3007]

Intresting memory.
But by chance, do you remember the price?

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007

Intresting memory.
But by chance, do you remember the price?

IIRC, it was well over $100.00 USD back then!
I was only 12 or 13yrs old at the time. I was there picking up some small parts to complete a project that was in an a Popular Electronics or similar magazine back then.

[Telecolor 3007]

100 U.S.D. Ui! Like 1,000-1,300 U.S.D. in today's money. Not cheap, but more affordable then to an Romania... think that avarage (not minimal) wage (sallary) around here is 500-800 Dollars (in big cities).

[Sandy G]

Well, and would the typical Romanian even be able to HAVE a fancy radio/TV back in the days of the Comecon bloc? We've heard-at least I have- That you guys weren't allowed to have lots of "Western items", because the Reds didn't want you picking up western TV/radio stations.They also used different frequencies, used PAL & SECAM, where we just had NTSC-"Never Twice The Same Colour" things like that. I think, honestly, BOTH sides used jamming quite often. I, for one, would have LOVED to have had a few of the examples of Soviet high-end hi-fi & radios. Over on AK, a few years back, somebody posted some pics & specifications of a little bit of it all. I think I can say that almost ANYONE would have been DELIGHTED to have some of it.....

[Telecolor 3007]

Yes, we had F.M. 65-73 M.Hz.
Only formers Yougoslavia and Eastern Germany (G.D.R.) had F.M. 88-100 (G.D.R. 88-104 in the '80's). 1st because it wasn't in the Soviet Bloc and Eastern Germany because it introduced F.M. (U.K.W.) before the introduction of F.M. O.I.R.T. standard.
Radios could be modified to work on 65-73 M.Hz. (M.c.) in stad of 88-100, 88-104, 88-105, 88-108. But the where some nice Eastern-Europeanen radios with F.M. (I'm talking about the good recivers, 'cause there where the poor qualty ones too). Now you have to midify the O.I.R.T. F.M. ones, because Europeanen bastards made us quit F.M. O.I.R.T. F.M. took off in Romania only after 1989, with the arrival of private stations.
In 1973 that 3rd Program of State Radio becamed Radio 3 (Trei) România Tineret (Radio 3 Romania Youth). F.M. only. Online only in the '000's because there is a law stipulating that in F.M. one company could have only 3 national networks and they chosen another 3 stations... In the '80's Radio 3 România Tineret stoped broadcastign Western music... so you tuned to forgein stations. The Yougoslav had intresting programing...
In Romania, there was an expresion for when a rumor was spreding fast: A emite pe ultrasucrte = To broadcast on ultrashort [waves]. F.M. is also called ultrascurte in Romania. The German U.K.W. (Ultra Kurtz Welle) means also U.S.W. Same Czech V.K.V. or Russian Y.K.B. (readen U.K.V.).

The East-Germans where the only ones from the Soviet Bloc to make portable tube radios with F.M. Ha, on the other hand I never seen a British portable tube radio with F.M... 1-0 for the Commies. Anyway, from the Capitalist countries only Western-Germany and Holland made nice radios... maybe the Swedish had some (oh, the Swedes and the Italians where the only one to make some domestic tube radios with F.M. 88-108... not top radios, but I want one; the Italians made only 2 models when F.M. was introduced, but after that they made those stupid 88-100 ones).
But the Czehoslovakian "Tesla" made 2 nice auto radios with F.M. (I don't know if there was an export version with C.C.I.R F.M.).
I hate the fact that they don't make any more 45, 90 or more Volts batteries. And 1.35 (the Zinc - Air 1,4 sucks and I can't find an adapter ring with voltage lowerig), 15 and 22.5 Volts ones, which where by far more common. Let them throw to junk theyr houses, I don't want to throw my apparatures.
P.S. in Romanian 22.5 Volts (twenty two and half Volts) is written 22,5 Volţi. So 1.000 = one thousand.

The tv sets that had varicap or electronic tuning where simple to modify if the worked on 625 line standard: just add filters for the 6,5 M.Hz. image - sound difference and you had sound (trough all that I heared some coulnt' be modified). My nickname had both C.C.I.R. and O.I.R.T. sound. And colour decoders wheren't a big deal...
In Romania we used P.A.L., not S.E.C.A.M. So officially Soviet imported colour tv sets had to be modify with a P.A.L. decoder. Former Yogoslavia also used P.A.L.