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Old 02-27-2017, 09:14 PM
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The Pencrest set is newer than early 60's, as it has a rectangular CRT. Probably a 1967 or newer issue.
If it is monochrome, the 23inch tubes with squared off corners date back to about 1961.

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Old 02-27-2017, 09:31 PM
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If it is monochrome, the 23inch tubes with squared off corners date back to about 1961.

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I read the entire thread entries and I fail to see, that's the set is color or monochrome.
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:13 PM
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I read the entire thread entries and I fail to see, that's the set is color or monochrome.
The TV is monochrome you can clearly see that in the pictures...
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:33 AM
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The TV is monochrome you can clearly see that in the pictures...
I find it hard to see, that's all.
I have a Penncrest wood cabinet AM-FM radio, made by Arvin.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:25 PM
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I find it hard to see, that's all.
I have a Penncrest wood cabinet AM-FM radio, made by Arvin.
in the pictures they have the TV on and you can clearly see a monochrome picture on the screen...
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Old 03-04-2017, 02:49 PM
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When I worked at A TV store we had a B&K Rejuvenator and had very good luck with it. Most times you could get another year or more of daily use from the tube if it wasn't to far gone.
That mirrors my experience. Rejuvenating a picture tube was always a last resort, and came with no guarantees, and the customer knew this in plain and simple terms up front. It was simply a low cost alternative to replacing the CRT. The reality was that it usually provided another year or so of usable life to an otherwise unwatchable TV set.

I would guess the shops that had trouble with this were the ones who didn't explain to the customer what was involved in rejuvenation and what options were available (replacement, rejuvenate, or brightener).
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:22 PM
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back in the shop days,customers were fully informed of their options.sometimes several times it was explained.they had the same complaint,"that damned machine blew up my picture tube.it was just fine before".mr dixon has a stellar rep and would replace a crt free if a customer complained.had to a few.used crts out of junk sets but still a free replacement
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:53 PM
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back in the shop days,customers were fully informed of their options.sometimes several times it was explained.they had the same complaint,"that damned machine blew up my picture tube.it was just fine before".mr dixon has a stellar rep and would replace a crt free if a customer complained.had to a few.used crts out of junk sets but still a free replacement
If only we had that kind of service now a days.

Now with the advent of Like Crap Displays (LCDs) you are lucky to even be able to get a warranty that would cover the replacement of said LCD TV if it fails.
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:46 AM
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I read the entire thread entries and I fail to see, that's the set is color or monochrome.
The TV is not color.
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:54 AM
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The TV is not color.
Now I can rest easy!
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:00 AM
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Now I can rest easy!
Like what me and jr._ tech were saying the unit most likely dates to the early 1960s.

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I figure on this combo being 1962-1964, Late tube era production. Definitely built by Wells-Gardner. Very nicely built.
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:55 PM
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It might be later than 1964 due to the UHF tuner. Few TV manufacturers put UHF tuners in their TVs before '64 (except as an extra-cost option; many VHF-only sets had a knockout plug with the words "for UHF tuner", "UHF", etc. on the front panel, to be used for the optional UHF tuner), except in areas where there were only UHF TV stations (Youngstown, Ohio, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Fresno, California, to name three).

UHF TV tuners would have been useless in northeastern Ohio in the '50s through the mid-'60s, as Cleveland did not get its first UHF TV station (an NET, now PBS affiliate) until 1965; its first commercial UHF signed on three years later. Los Angeles and New York City viewers would have no use for TVs with UHF tuners in any case, since these cities have seven VHF stations, the maximum possible with a 12-channel VHF tuner.
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Old 04-28-2017, 10:04 PM
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Power hungry for a b&w set, isn't it? Yet that's my conclusion as well. Circa 1964 I would guess, with a latter-day tubed receiver jacking up the total wattage added to the TV. If this set had color adjustments to make to it, they would have been under the lid, probably instead of the vertical and horizontal hold.
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