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Old 12-18-2018, 12:17 PM
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Auto stop/start is big with Ford. I wouldnt have it. Always defaults on
unless you mod it or buy a kit. Ford says they have a better starter &
battery so no extra wear. Begs the question why not put the better
stuff in ALL the cars ?

With manuals I almost always started in 2nd. Only time for 1st was
when you were doing comparative driving or a smoke show. Another
feature lost on automatics is the D2 that skips 1st. In snow both my
Crown Vic & Roadmaster would just spin the tires in 1st the second
you let off the brakes.

Interesting thing on gearing. The Mt. Washington Auto Road uses
GMC vans as limos.
https://mtwashingtonautoroad.com/guided-tours
They are geared so you have to accelerate to go DOWN hill. Let off the gas
& you come to a stop.

73 Zeno
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:04 PM
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Kinda late here, But I have a 1990 Dodge w250 with an NP435 granny 4 (and likely 4:10 gears in the diffs) and I never take off out of first unless I'm ripping small trees out of the ground. 1st is like 6:1 or something ridiculous like that. It even says in the manual to take off out of second for normal driving.

I'm also not crazy about the old 4 speeds. my truck is at 3000rpm at 65mph in 4th.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:09 PM
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With manuals I almost always started in 2nd. Only time for 1st was
when you were doing comparative driving or a smoke show.
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Kinda late here, But I have a 1990 Dodge w250 with an NP435 granny 4 (and likely 4:10 gears in the diffs) and I never take off out of first unless I'm ripping small trees out of the ground.
Whatever floats your gears blokes.

There's a series of videos on YouTube of a school bus that was refitted with a 5-speed main and a 4-speed auxiliary. The two guys I saw drive it took off in second/low except for when demonstrating granny low and later on pulling out a badly stuck 4x4.

A car we used to have had a really wide gap between third and fourth, the latter only being used at highway speeds. I suppose one's level of satisfaction with 4-speeds depends on whether or not fourth is an overdrive.

Early on when I was practicing on a manual, that particular car was tricky to get into low so I accidentally ended up in third a couple of times. Once I actually succeeded in taking off in third which really bogged down the engine as I had pulled onto an incline. Once I realized what happened I made the mistake of downshifting all the way into low; the engine roared and when I shifted back in second the tires screeched a bit, prompting a chuckle from the guy who owned the car. Nevertheless, even then I was better at driving a manual than Captain Kirk.
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Old 12-20-2018, 02:08 AM
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Regarding the Transmission fluid, certain 60's era Mopars with the Power-flite transmissions used the engine oil as the transmission fluid.
I know! I actually had a 54 or 53 Chrysler New Yorker in the shop once. Was the first model year for Chrysler's first actual automatic transmission (not counting the manual with a torque converter [although ironically, this transmission WAS a manual with a torque converter, just automatically shifted by a coffee-can-sized solenoid]). The service manual was with the car and I read up on the transmission. You had to change the engine and transmission oil altogether, because they shared the oil. Must've been an expensive oil change.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:47 AM
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Auto stop/start is big with Ford. I wouldnt have it. Always defaults on
unless you mod it or buy a kit. Ford says they have a better starter &
battery so no extra wear. Begs the question why not put the better
stuff in ALL the cars ?

With manuals I almost always started in 2nd. Only time for 1st was
when you were doing comparative driving or a smoke show. Another
feature lost on automatics is the D2 that skips 1st. In snow both my
Crown Vic & Roadmaster would just spin the tires in 1st the second
you let off the brakes.

Interesting thing on gearing. The Mt. Washington Auto Road uses
GMC vans as limos.
https://mtwashingtonautoroad.com/guided-tours
They are geared so you have to accelerate to go DOWN hill. Let off the gas
& you come to a stop.

73 Zeno
LFOD !
My new to me 2017 Jeep Compass seems to act that way. The second you decelerate it seems to downshift, almost like you're braking. I guess it's easier on the brakes.
It also has what they refer to as "Autostick". You can go through the gears like a manual.
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Old 12-20-2018, 07:53 PM
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My new to me 2017 Jeep Compass seems to act that way. The second you decelerate it seems to downshift, almost like you're braking. I guess it's easier on the brakes.
It also has what they refer to as "Autostick". You can go through the gears like a manual.
On the Auto Road you run 1st all the way up for cooling & all the way down for braking. There are some cars that cant stay in 1st & they wont let them up.
I was told once they used to do brakes every 2 weeks about 675 miles !
The new vans never need brakes, you only have to use them twice per trip.
Anyhows its abt 4000 feet up in 8 miles & really tests the cooling, brakes
& tranny. You can actually smell a car coming !

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