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Old 12-14-2017, 05:34 PM
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1986 Sears LXI 20" with Nudes

Hi everyone,
I've been meaning to post about this dumpster save since I joined.
Sears LXI 564.42701650
Can't find very much info at all. I am pretty sure after reading it is made by Sanyo. It does in fact have 4 speakers that are Sanyo.

The rgb input on the rear is somewhat of a mystery. Some say it is for a vhs camcorder in composite. Others claim it is digital rgb similar to a cga/vga monitor for DOS era games. I can't confirm or deny any of this from reputable sources. When I first got the tv last year I asked around in social media. Reddit/Facebook mostly said in a round-a-bout way that I should scrap it and buy a pvm/bvm and provided zero actual knowledge. No thanks. (the reason I joined here)

I can't find very much about this tv, no manual or anything, but thanks in advance for anyone who cares to respond. After looking inside I think I will keep it as part of my collection, plus I like the Sears private label stuff too. The picture really isn't too bad all things considered and if I had nothing else I'd gladly be using it daily. The movie playing looks better in person as I used a phone camera-fyi.

**The flip cover in the front is gone. If anyone has this or knows of one please let me know.**

Thanks again for looking and the cloud link has a lot more pix of the board, etc.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...Ow?usp=sharing
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:51 PM
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Wow cool set, surprised to see so many high end features on a 20" store branded set. The RGB input was common on a lot of high end Japanese sets in the mid 80's, it was for a computer.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:01 PM
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Thanks dishdude.
It would have been a true shame to have it go in the landfill I thought.
I am not doubting anyone but I sure wish I could see the manual and/or a pinout of the rgb connector. If it is in fact digital rgb, I always loved dos games and would use this as an excuse to buy an Amiga or another old PC like I had back then.
You mentioned Japanese sets, I did see Japan/Made in Japan on a cpl place inside the set.
Take care fellow CRT lover

I updated the link for the rest of the pix, Google Drive and it works this time.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:09 PM
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The RGB input is going to be analog, it even predates VGA. I'm not sure why they all used that big bulky connector on TV/monitors when the computers and smaller monitors used a smaller 9 pin d connector.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:22 PM
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The RGB input is going to be analog, it even predates VGA. I'm not sure why they all used that big bulky connector on TV/monitors when the computers and smaller monitors used a smaller 9 pin d connector.
That (EIAJ) connector was a Standard TV/VTR connector before home computers were a thing. It originally was used on early open reel consumer Videotape Recorders and on their companion TV/monitors (had a different pinout that supported bi-directional video and mono-sound). If they had made that connector support stereo (that would need more pins or a different wiring standard) we'd probably still be using it today...
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:40 PM
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That (EIAJ) connector was a Standard TV/VTR connector before home computers were a thing. It originally was used on early open reel consumer Videotape Recorders and on their companion TV/monitors (had a different pinout that supported bi-directional video and mono-sound). If they had made that connector support stereo (that would need more pins or a different wiring standard) we'd probably still be using it today...
I remember seeing them on old U-Matics and some commercial equipment, but by the mid 80's it was pretty much obsolete.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:40 AM
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I am not doubting anyone but I sure wish I could see the manual and/or a pinout of the rgb connector.
Try this.
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Old 12-15-2017, 10:09 AM
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Thanks dishdude.
It would have been a true shame to have it go in the landfill I thought.
I am not doubting anyone but I sure wish I could see the manual and/or a pinout of the rgb connector. If it is in fact digital rgb, I always loved dos games and would use this as an excuse to buy an Amiga or another old PC like I had back then.
You mentioned Japanese sets, I did see Japan/Made in Japan on a cpl place inside the set.
Take care fellow CRT lover

I updated the link for the rest of the pix, Google Drive and it works this time.
Probably, the entire circuit board is Japanese made. The final assembly is done in the old Warwick plant in Arkansas.
Those Sanyo sets are almost indestructable, except for the CRT's, when they used Sylvania and RCA CRT's.
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Old 12-15-2017, 10:30 AM
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Yup its a Sanyo probably with a Sylvania jug. The input is probably
whats called TTL (IIRC) for early computers. Dont remember any
VTR's etc that had RGB. All I have seen were standard composite
& audio. Have seen this connector for computers on a few high end
sets. May take either ??? Very surprised it showed up on a Sears.

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Old 12-15-2017, 10:42 AM
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Sears LXI 564.42701560

I can't find very much about this tv, no manual or anything


564.42701650

Service info is in Sams Photofact 2544-1

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Nice save but I definitely do not miss 1980s styling.
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Old 12-15-2017, 08:37 PM
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Nice save but I definitely do not miss 1980s styling.
Mid 70's to late 80's are the best styling wise. 4 speakers and a full jack pack including a 1/4" headphone jack on a 20" set? Love it.
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:39 PM
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I have a Sears RGB monitor with EIAJ connector. Monitor is Philips made.
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Old 12-15-2017, 11:06 PM
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Mid 70's to late 80's are the best styling wise. 4 speakers and a full jack pack including a 1/4" headphone jack on a 20" set? Love it.
They're among the best designs for sure. I never saw a set quite like this though.

I didn't know that RGB input was used on anything other than monitors. I'd certainly like to be able to use that port on my U-Matic, once I get new rubber in it that is.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:31 AM
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They're among the best designs for sure. I never saw a set quite like this though.

I didn't know that RGB input was used on anything other than monitors. I'd certainly like to be able to use that port on my U-Matic, once I get new rubber in it that is.
The EIAJ connector has a completely different pinout/signal set on that TV than the one on your Umatic does. The Umatic has 4 signal lines in it: (composite)Video in (Composite) Video out, Audio in, Audio out....That Monitor has a different 4 lines: Red video, Blue video, Green video, Sync...If you were to plug your umatic into that set it would not work.



About 10 years ago I had a working Sony PVM with an EIAJ connector for RGB input. My folks told me it was NOT coming with on a pending cross-country move, so I scrapped it. I still have the EIAJ connector from it (and a board or two)....Part of me wishes I had found a way to keep it.
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