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Old 06-11-2018, 11:34 AM
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Garod Console

I was able to pick up a Garod Console for cheap. It is (at least the lower portion) not the greatest (stored in a damp garage). I got it mainly for the picture tube, chassis and screen mask. It is full of tubes as well as what looks like a decent flyback. I haven't tested the picture tube yet. My goal was to use the parts to make my stand alone Garod Tv a little more original, at least as far as the round picture tube goes. The owner originally ran a Radio, TV sale and repair business in Toronto and he originally sold these units. You will probably notice that the chassis mounted transformer is not there (there is a factory screen where it should be). The transformer is mounted below the TV chassis on a sub unit that powers the phono section. If I didn't take it, it was headed to the dump.
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Old 06-11-2018, 11:59 AM
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Given the extreme rarity of that console, I'd restore it rather than using it as a parts set. There are collectors that spend massive sums for consoles with huge cabinets and tiny screens. There are almost certainly far fewer consoles than table models with that chassis.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:28 PM
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Given the extreme rarity of that console, I'd restore it rather than using it as a parts set. There are collectors that spend massive sums for consoles with huge cabinets and tiny screens. There are almost certainly far fewer consoles than table models with that chassis.
I second this motion, and I'm one of those suckers, er uh, collectors, that will pay a massive sum for an even more massive late 40s console with a tiny screen.

That set is rare, please don't part it out. If anything, use the tabletop to restore THAT console.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:40 PM
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Hi Tony,
I like your Garod console. It may take a bit of work, but it looks restorable. What size crt does it have? Having the power supply down below leaves more space for parts replacement. Even the original lettering doesn't look all bad.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:56 PM
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Hi Guys, I am still kicking around the idea of restoring it. It will take a lot (ton) of work as the veneers on both sides has come unglued. Not a big deal I know, the bottom support pieces are pretty rotten and moldy. I haven't been able to get it out of the back of my pickup truck yet, I pulled the chassis, power supply and phono section in order to make the cabinet lighter to load and put those in the front of the box section with the cabinet in last (I've got a topper) so I can't get to it to check the CRT size. I could use the TV chassis out of the TV cabinet that I do have as it is rust free. The chassis in the combo unit has a tad more rust. These pictures are not mine, they were in the kijij ad.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:44 PM
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Unless the chassis rust has structurally compromised some key parts of chassis(ie rusted through, and made holes in bad spots) the rust is not a big deal unless you want your chassis to look perfect.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:44 PM
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That is a rare and amazing find. It certainly is worth restoring.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:52 AM
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Having been into vintage TV's for many decades I too must chime in and say that set is about as rare as any pre-war TV. There likely is just a precious few of them existing. That along with the primitive front panel and porthole screen make it worth every bit of effort to restore. A very cool find!
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:16 AM
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Being a Toronto receiver, the power grid was 25Hz when the set was delivered. This reflected on US 60Hz sets modified for 25Hz: large iron transformers. Hence the augmented iron was often located on sub-chassis' located elsewhere in the cabinet. (Toronto only switched to 60Hz I believe in 1958).

TV became available over the air from Buffalo in 1948 when WBEN (now WIVB) channel 4 signed on. Canada's first TV broadcasts from the CBLT Toronto and CBMT Montreal began September 1952. Many Torontonian's were ensconced with Buffalo television for four years before the CBC.

This set was for one of the earliest pre-CBC viewers in Toronto.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:46 PM
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Thank-You for the wealth of information. It is always nice to have a little history lesson that I had no idea about. I was out cleaning the bottom of the console while it was laying down in the truck. I managed to squeeze past it and got up to the chassis with the picture tube in it. It is a 12LP4. I didn't really feel like dragging my tester in behind me. That will have to wait for another day. I really hope it tests ok.
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:48 PM
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Sweet. That's one lucky find for sure
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:51 PM
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Your Garod console looks great, even if part of the cabinet needs work yet. I'm sure once you restore it it will work just as well, although it won't work on today's ATSC TV standards without cable or a converter box and an antenna.

BTW, was Garod affiliated in any way with a US TV manufacturer known as Majestic? For several years, I had the chassis from a 1951 Majestic 16" round-tube TV, with a 16GP4 CRT; the set had belonged to my aunt who lived across town from us (she was moving and couldn't take it with her), so I couldn't get the cabinet. (I wish I could have, though, as the cabinet for this chassis was solid wood, mahogany, I believe, and very nice looking, with six brass door pulls on the doors in front of the CRT--oh, well.) The chassis, with an old car radio speaker for audio (I had it sitting on top of a Crosley Super V set in the basement), worked very well on the attic antenna in our house. I had to give it up when I moved in 1972. I hated to do it, since the set was working so well, but where I was moving (long story) I wouldn't have had room for it anyway.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:01 PM
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Your Garod console looks great, even if part of the cabinet needs work yet. I'm sure once you restore it it will work just as well, although it won't work on today's ATSC TV standards without cable or a converter box and an antenna.

BTW, was Garod affiliated in any way with a US TV manufacturer known as Majestic? For several years, I had the chassis from a 1951 Majestic 16" round-tube TV, with a 16GP4 CRT; the set had belonged to my aunt who lived across town from us (she was moving and couldn't take it with her), so I couldn't get the cabinet. (I wish I could have, though, as the cabinet for this chassis was solid wood, mahogany, I believe, and very nice looking, with six brass door pulls on the doors in front of the CRT--oh, well.) The chassis, with an old car radio speaker for audio (I had it sitting on top of a Crosley Super V set in the basement), worked very well on the attic antenna in our house. I had to give it up when I moved in 1972. I hated to do it, since the set was working so well, but where I was moving (long story) I wouldn't have had room for it anyway.
I think, there was some kind of connection with Garod and Majestic and with Wilcox-Gay the recorder manufacturer.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:30 PM
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I think, there was some kind of connection with Garod and Majestic and with Wilcox-Gay the recorder manufacturer.
Yep...Some detail here:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_hers...ompany_id=3789

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Old 06-17-2018, 04:20 PM
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That TV is a great find. The "new" Garod Tele-Zoom feature is mentioned here about 1/4 of the way down the page. http://antiqueradios.com/features/1949tv.html

I found it interesting that Garod, and others, manufactured some models for RCA. When going through the RCA archives at the Hagley Museum I saw this in an RCA internal document, dated 6/21/45, specifying the serial number format and labeling to be used on RCA products.
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