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Old 06-04-2018, 08:19 PM
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When did the switch from "wide" to "tall" CRTs occur?

So we all know that CRTs, even non-console sets, used to be in a "wide" form factor with the knobs/buttons to one side of the tube and speakers on either side of the tube. And that by the mid 90s all non-console sets had changed to a "tall" form factor, with the speakers and buttons under the tube. My question is...when did this change start happening? My old 1990 Sanyo set was a "tall" set but in 1989 there were definitely still "wide" sets.
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Old 06-04-2018, 08:53 PM
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Mid 80s as far as I remember.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:15 PM
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Really it was more of a shifting design trends thing. If you go back to the dawn of consumer TV in the late 40's both styles and some others we have not seen made since were played with, and both pretty much coexisted all along with the relative popularity varying all the time...It started becoming more of a monoculture in the 90's because most of the sets were Asian made, and cheap commodities by then...Once a product hits that point stylistic creativity/diversity tends to die.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:56 PM
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Mid 80's as mechanical tuners went away. By 1990 almost all had the control panel under the screen.
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Old 06-05-2018, 09:06 AM
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Its a style that came & went over the years. Some 50's
bug eyed Zeniths are narrow. Many early 60's were made
in the suitcase or attache style. "Top Tuning" sets were
also narrow. For color the mid 70's Sony 17" comes to mind
first. All controls on bottom & it looked real odd to us.
In the 80's it became the "cube" style. That spred like wild fire
since you can get a 25" into an area a little bigger than a typical
19-20" Enuf

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Old 06-05-2018, 09:23 AM
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I think the switch from mono to stereo, is what did it.

That second speaker made the TV a bit too wide, so made sense to put them under instead. Also, the switch away from knobs to a row of buttons meant the control panel could also be much more narrow, and the universal adaptation of remote controls made it less important.

Notice how it's usually mono TVs with the horizontal layout, and stereo with the speakers under the screen. Later mono TVs did use the vertical layout, but they were usually economy versions of stereo sets, with some parts removed.
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:15 PM
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That's true, aside from console sets I've never seen a horizontal layout stereo set.
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:39 PM
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That's true, aside from console sets I've never seen a horizontal layout stereo set.
There were a few, especially in the mid 80's. I really like the style of them.
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:18 PM
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That's true, aside from console sets I've never seen a horizontal layout stereo set.

I have two Sony sets that are exactly this way. I suspect there are many other Sony models like this as well.
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:54 PM
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I definitely wish I could find the Sony and Mitsubishi high end stuff but sadly all I ever seem to find are 80s mono sets and low end stuff from the BPC era!
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:04 PM
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I definitely wish I could find the Sony and Mitsubishi high end stuff but sadly all I ever seem to find are 80s mono sets and low end stuff from the BPC era!

Hang in there, and keep an eye out!
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:32 AM
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I definitely wish I could find the Sony and Mitsubishi high end stuff but sadly all I ever seem to find are 80s mono sets and low end stuff from the BPC era!
The sets are out there you just gotta dig for them. Go to yard sales
ESPECIALLY old folks, old neighborhoods & farms. ASK ! They are
often stuck in cellars, attics & garages. Only pay little or nothing for
them unless you know its a money set.
The hard thing is finding Sonys with a good CRT. You will find lots of
Zeniths & they were top of line sets. Almost always need little work &
are the easiest to fix. Just remember almost all old sets are worth
NOTHING. In fact I wish someone took my old 36" Sony XBR for free !

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Old 06-06-2018, 10:10 AM
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I definitely wish I could find the Sony and Mitsubishi high end stuff but sadly all I ever seem to find are 80s mono sets and low end stuff from the BPC era!
Interested in one of these (with matching stand)?

Sony KV-3000R



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Old 06-06-2018, 02:11 PM
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No way, I don't have anywhere near enough space for that! Right now I only buy/pick up sets that are 21 inches or less...
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:25 PM
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Interested in one of these (with matching stand)?

Sony KV-3000R



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That's one heck of a TV!
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