Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early Color Television

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-16-2015, 11:43 AM
Tom S's Avatar
Tom S Tom S is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Plover, WI
Posts: 185
My CTC 11

Well aside from the Cataract The chassis is working fairly well. Now the CRT isn't great. Green and blue are down. If I could find a better one I'd install it. I don't know if I should fix the Cataract or just replace the tube. I had good luck with my Sencore Big Mack and the tube came back fair. My Beltron just couldn't do it. Same with my B&K 467 was the same. The tube is a 21FJP22. If I could just find one reasonable price I'd do it DSC05281.jpg

DSC05280.jpg
__________________
Tom Smrz
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-17-2015, 04:23 PM
wkand's Avatar
wkand wkand is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Everett WA
Posts: 262
I vote save the tube and fix the cataract. That is a nice picture, even if it is a little dim. The question you have to ask, is: Is the picture so dim that you hate watching it. Also, what is a reasonable price to you? I have seen FJ's go for $200 or more...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-17-2015, 08:38 PM
DavGoodlin's Avatar
DavGoodlin DavGoodlin is offline
Motorola Minion
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: near Strasburg PA
Posts: 3,403
That appears it would be an easy cataract fix. Maybe that alone will change any perceived CRT weakness but it looks good from here.
__________________
"When resistors increase in value, they're worthless"
-Dave G
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-17-2015, 08:46 PM
Kevin Kuehn's Avatar
Kevin Kuehn Kevin Kuehn is offline
Workin' Late Again
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WI
Posts: 3,824
Hi Tom,

Have to agree with Dave, that the cataract is so far along that the safety glass may pop off without much struggle(easy for me to say ) I think most FJP tubes you find at this point are going to have similar cataracts. I guess another option would be a 21FBP22(non bonded external safety glass). But you'll probably have to harvest one from a less desirable set, which is easier said than done.

Last edited by Kevin Kuehn; 06-18-2015 at 10:33 AM. Reason: wrong tube number
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-18-2015, 09:26 AM
BigDavesTV's Avatar
BigDavesTV BigDavesTV is offline
BigDavesTV
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Farmington Hills, MI
Posts: 492
I recommend trying to fix the cataract, and save the CRT! That tube still has usable life in it. I'd like to see a brighter picture showing the cabinet it's in! :-)
__________________
[B]"Bee care-eh-full to don't broke thee pic-sher tee-yube!" :-)
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 06-18-2015, 09:48 AM
dieseljeep dieseljeep is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom S View Post
Well aside from the Cataract The chassis is working fairly well. Now the CRT isn't great. Green and blue are down. If I could find a better one I'd install it. I don't know if I should fix the Cataract or just replace the tube. I had good luck with my Sencore Big Mack and the tube came back fair. My Beltron just couldn't do it. Same with my B&K 467 was the same. The tube is a 21FJP22. If I could just find one reasonable price I'd do it Attachment 187077

Attachment 187078
The picture looks pretty good and you're going to have to remove the cataract anyway.
If you do find another CRT, you can use that one in a less desirable set.
I have a Sencore Big Mack that I bought at a swap meet. The main reason I bought it is that is the only checker, I own that tests the GE Porta-Color CRT's and had most of the sockets. I never used the rejuvenate function.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-18-2015, 09:58 AM
DaveWM DaveWM is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Orlando FL
Posts: 5,607
from the looks of the whites in the pic I would say that the CRT looks pretty darn good. removal of that lens should be pretty easy as others have stated based on the degree of degradation of the PVA or what ever the plastic is.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-18-2015, 10:46 AM
dieseljeep dieseljeep is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveWM View Post
from the looks of the whites in the pic I would say that the CRT looks pretty darn good. removal of that lens should be pretty easy as others have stated based on the degree of degradation of the PVA or what ever the plastic is.
I wonder if it's the original or replacement CRT?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-18-2015, 12:59 PM
IsthmusTV's Avatar
IsthmusTV IsthmusTV is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 329
My guess would be that it's a replacement. I'm pretty sure that all CTC-11's originally came with 21FB's since they have the separate safety glass. Mine has its original 21FBP22.

Tom, I vote for removing the cataract too

-Clark
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-18-2015, 07:51 PM
roundscreen roundscreen is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: buffalo ny
Posts: 377
Quote:
Originally Posted by IsthmusTV View Post
My guess would be that it's a replacement. I'm pretty sure that all CTC-11's originally came with 21FB's since they have the separate safety glass. Mine has its original 21FBP22.

Tom, I vote for removing the cataract too

-Clark
Some CTC 11's had a separate safety glass and others did not. I Have one with the 21fbp22 CRT and another with the 21fjp22 CRT. The 11 does have a really good picture.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #11  
Old 06-18-2015, 10:58 PM
Kevin Kuehn's Avatar
Kevin Kuehn Kevin Kuehn is offline
Workin' Late Again
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WI
Posts: 3,824
My RCA field service guide states that CTC-11's could have come with one of three types of CRT, including CYP, FBP, or FJP. But there's no elaboration as to rhyme or reason.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-19-2015, 12:00 AM
rca2000's Avatar
rca2000 rca2000 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: cincinnati,ohio
Posts: 2,090
I THINK...the first run of them had a CYP...then they went to an FB/JP tube.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-19-2015, 09:41 AM
dieseljeep dieseljeep is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn View Post
My RCA field service guide states that CTC-11's could have come with one of three types of CRT, including CYP, FBP, or FJP. But there's no elaboration as to rhyme or reason.
I remember seeing that notation!
It must've been the real early production set that used the CYP. I've never seen one.
Tom S. would have to look inside to see if there is a serial number tag on the CRT matching the chassis tag.
Either that, or the CRT is a replacement.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-19-2015, 10:19 AM
radiomec's Avatar
radiomec radiomec is offline
Marco Bacigalupo
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Chiavari, Italy
Posts: 88
That type of tube is not difficult to fix the cataract problem, in these days I am working to a 21FJP22 of a Zenith tv set.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG1366.jpg (93.5 KB, 56 views)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-19-2015, 01:51 PM
Steve D.'s Avatar
Steve D. Steve D. is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Hollywood Hills, Ca.
Posts: 1,790
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDavesTV View Post
I recommend trying to fix the cataract, and save the CRT! That tube still has usable life in it. I'd like to see a brighter picture showing the cabinet it's in! :-)
Brightened up the screen shot to see the cabinet a bit better. Hopefully Tom will post a photo of the cabinet.

-Steve D.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC05280.jpg (56.8 KB, 57 views)
__________________
Please visit my CT-100, CTC-5, vintage color tv site:
http://www.wtv-zone.com/Stevetek/

Last edited by Steve D.; 06-19-2015 at 01:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:26 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.