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Old 06-21-2019, 01:36 PM
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Hallicrafters T-506 Late Production Set

Greetings, Gentlemen:

I recently acquired the Hallicrafters, and I'm replacing the selenium rectifier with a 1N4007 diode. It's been a long time since I've been on the bench, and I forgot how to tell the " + " end of the diode.

Also, I hear you may need to install a resistor, and don't know what value to start with and where it goes.

Thanks;

Lee
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Old 06-21-2019, 03:40 PM
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The end of the resistor body with the stripe is the + end. Start with about 50 ohms, at least 5 watts, and adjust from there. Sets with voltage doublers for the main B+ need a smaller resistor (typically 10-20 ohms, 10 watts) but I believe in this set that rectifier carries a smaller load. The added resistor simply goes in series with the diode, either before or after.
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Old 06-21-2019, 04:35 PM
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There are, obviously, two leads connected to the selenium rectifier. One to the positive marked end, and one to the negative. I take it the diode connects in similar fashion.

Does the 50 ohm resistor go between the negative lead to the diode or the positive?

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PS: It's been awhile since I've done this.
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Old 06-21-2019, 06:22 PM
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Dumb as it seems, the '+' end of the selenium corresponds to the banded (cathode) end of the Si diode. The + sign simply means "the B plus comes out of here".

The resistor would connect "upstream" of the diode.
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Old 06-21-2019, 07:07 PM
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The end of the resistor body with the stripe is the + end.
I should try proofreading some time.

The end of the diode with the stripe is the + end.

The added resistor goes on either side -- it doesn't matter which you choose.
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Old 06-21-2019, 07:38 PM
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Which side doesn't matter, but conventionally it went on the input side of the diode.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:28 PM
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Gentlemen ?!? Who come in ? (Grin) Lotsa luck fixin' the Halli... They are ALWAYS neat old sets...Me, I got an SX-28, S-36, SX-62B, SX-73 & a couple of others whose monikers escape me currently...Great mementos from the era when American radios & related stuff were second to NONE in the world...
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:40 AM
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Gentlemen ?!? Who come in ? (Grin) Lotsa luck fixin' the Halli... They are ALWAYS neat old sets...Me, I got an SX-28, S-36, SX-62B, SX-73 & a couple of others whose monikers escape me currently...Great mementos from the era when American radios & related stuff were second to NONE in the world...
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Yup. Neat set. I've sent out the mahogany cabinet to be refinished. The front plate and bezels, etc I'll restore myself.

I want this one to come out primo.

Waiting for the high voltage caps to come in...
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:04 AM
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Like a dummy, I only ordered two 470pF 15kV axial caps. I need four.

Can I substitute ceramic disc caps? Two are in the HV Cage, two underneath near the bleeder resistors. The parts list calls for 500pF 6kV.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:20 AM
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Another question: I hear the HV RF Coil is a soft spot on these TVs.

Should I:

1. Clean and bake it at 180 degrees?

2. Space the top lid by .25"

3. Add a muffin fan?

Love to see a pic of the HV Cage with the fan installed.

Thanks.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:39 AM
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Like a dummy, I only ordered two 470pF 15kV axial caps. I need four.

Can I substitute ceramic disc caps? Two are in the HV Cage, two underneath near the bleeder resistors. The parts list calls for 500pF 6kV.
You can give the ceramic caps a try, but they might not work well. I did a study of this a few years ago and was able to show how the applied DC voltage across high voltage ceramic caps actually changes their capacitance. This causes severe distortion of the scanned raster.

That problem, however, is mainly with vertical deflection. In your set, those use much larger value capacitors like .01 uF (or I believe even .05 uF in the Hallicrafters). Your 470 pF caps are probably for horizontal deflection or HV filtering, which have less of a problem with this.

What I found with ceramic capacitors is that if you simply use a significantly higher capacitance value than the original tubular capacitor, ceramic will work. So for example, if you see problems using 470 pF ceramic capacitors, then using something like 2000 pF (.002 uF) or more will probably work just fine. Maybe even .001 uF would do the trick.

For some of my previous work on this subject, see: http://www.videokarma.org/showthread...=260749&page=2

I have a more complete write up of it somewhere else, but I can't find a link to it right now.

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Another question: I hear the HV RF Coil is a soft spot on these TVs.

Should I:

1. Clean and bake it at 180 degrees?

2. Space the top lid by .25"

3. Add a muffin fan?

Love to see a pic of the HV Cage with the fan installed.

Thanks.
My experience with a Hallicrafters set that had a problematic coil was as follows:

1. Clean, bake, and coat with fresh varnish: Temporarily fixes the problem, but not long term. (although others have reported better results)

2. Lift the lid by 1/4 inch: not sufficient to help.

3. Add muffin fan and lift the lid: works well. I had a very small muffin fan that fit inside the cage. About 30 mm square, 10 mm or so thick. Didn't like the noise it made.

4. Best fix: replace the coil with a different one (I used a donor from a Teletone junker)

Not all Hallicrafters sets have this problem. You might be lucky and have one of the good ones.
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I have this to look forward to! I have one in queue. I also like the stainless steel paint that was used on the metal cabinet, but have not found it locally.
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[QUOTE=Tom Albrecht;3212247]My experience with a Hallicrafters set that had a problematic coil was as follows:

1. Clean, bake, and coat with fresh varnish: Temporarily fixes the problem, but not long term. (although others have reported better results)

2. Lift the lid by 1/4 inch: not sufficient to help.

3. Add muffin fan and lift the lid: works well. I had a very small muffin fan that fit inside the cage. About 30 mm square, 10 mm or so thick. Didn't like the noise it made.

4. Best fix: replace the coil with a different one (I used a donor from a Teletone junker)

Not all Hallicrafters sets have this problem. You might be lucky and have one of the good ones.[Quote]

Would doing the 1st 2 suggestions help? I mean before I power it up.

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