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Old 03-18-2014, 08:06 PM
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I believe Sony was the first Company to win an Emmy for their contribution to Television.

Nothing came close back then but Sony charged dearly for the privilege.

Did GE feel any shame at all for selling the Porta-Color during the same era?
I remember the emmy.... They used it in their ads......

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Did GE feel any shame at all for selling the Porta-Color during the same era?
Now that's funny........
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:33 PM
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Did GE feel any shame at all for selling the Porta-Color during the same era?
you got that right. I have mine running side by side, poor little PC needs some love.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:55 AM
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Thanks Robb for showing this Sony.She looks beautiful right out of the box from the store.I have that set here somewhere in my basement or in the garage .I think my set still works.I used it in old my apartment kitchen for years.




I have to say I enjoy your threads of your mint condition TV's on here and ARF forum .

By the time I get my sets.They are well used and trashed.

You could rent your collection out to Hollywood as props for old movie or TV show scenes.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:57 AM
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You could rent your collection out to Hollywood as props for old movie or TV show scenes.
No way ! They wont come back in 1 peice !
Money comes and goes, but vintage things (in mint shape) arent that easy to find !
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:12 AM
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No way ! They wont come back in 1 peice !
Money comes and goes, but vintage things (in mint shape) arent that easy to find !
Yes I agree 100 percent.They probably trash it on the set or it will get trashed in shipping on the way there or back home.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:19 AM
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I see a big ol' gap coming in technical history as none of today's junk sets will be around in the decades to come. Surface mount=not repairable.
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No way ! They wont come back in 1 peice !
Money comes and goes, but vintage things (in mint shape) arent that easy to find !
One word: implosion. If any production company wanted use of any of my sets, I would have to take it there myself and be able to keep an eye on it the whole time. Otherwise, no deal.

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Old 03-21-2014, 02:06 PM
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I see a big ol' gap coming in technical history as none of today's junk sets will be around in the decades to come. Surface mount=not repairable.
I agree. Flat screens with modules, however, will be repairable, albeit not at board level due to, as you mentioned, surface-mounted components. Most FS TVs only have three such modules and, of course, the LCD panel; when these sets develop problems, they can almost always be found on one of those modules, which of course can be replaced. The LCD display can be replaced easily enough, but the problem is that the cost of a new panel, plus the shop's labor charges, often (more often than not) equals or exceeds the cost of a brand new TV. I personally would not even bother having a flat screen (with a name I never heard of) repaired, for just that reason.

Any flat screen TV that lasts anywhere near ten years will be one for the record books, as these sets are simply not meant to last that long. Replacement of components such as burst electrolytic capacitors or capacitors with bulges (the main cause of total failure in flat screens) is beyond the abilities of most non-technical people, so when any flat screen goes bad after the warranty expires, the set will be put out for the trash and a new one purchased. I saw a Westinghouse 24" (approximately) flat screen in the trash behind my apartment last year; it wound up there probably due to a defective capacitor or even a broken screen. I couldn't tell the condition of the panel, since the TV was placed with the screen facing one of the trash barrels. My best guess is a component failed, probably a power supply electrolytic.

It's a shame that very large flat screens (which includes the newest 4K and UHD [ultra-HD] TVs now appearing in stores), which cost upwards of $1k (not chicken feed to most people), are junked after the warranty expires, and it is very wasteful to junk a smaller set when it eventually quits. Stores such as Best Buy do have recycling programs for old, defective flat screens, but just how many people take advantage of them is anyone's guess unless the store recycles the old sets as soon as they come in.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:46 PM
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Sony Emmy:
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:59 PM
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I was wondering if a solid state rectifier stick replacement could be used in these?
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Old 03-19-2014, 12:31 AM
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I was wondering if a solid state rectifier stick replacement could be used in these?
If the reverse breakdown voltage and forward current ratings of the stick are the same or higher than that of the tube, then I see no reason why it would not work....Though the tubes are probably cheaper and more plentiful these days.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:17 AM
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I was wondering if a solid state rectifier stick replacement could be used in these?
They made a solid state plug-in replacement, HV rectifier.
I used them when the HV rectifier filament winding would arc through. I just cut away the winding and taped it up. Then I used a SS replacement.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:27 AM
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A photo of the HV tube in this model.

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The corners are indeed sharp. This set is a later production model. It has the "cheese grater" style speaker grill. The original had the flat metal with round holes. Beautiful set.
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saw my first sony at jimmy rea electronics about 1970.i must admit,it was awesome.revolutionary for time and to this day,those old sony s produce possibly the best color picture ever.
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:30 PM
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That's the thing....IIRC, even in '69, you STILL had to get somebody out to yr house & "Set Up" yr new color set for you.. The Sony, you brought it home, plugged it in, hooked up an antenna or cable, & you were Good to Go...Of course, the appliance store dealer made up on the service call DOUBLE what he'd "Given back" to you on the GREAT deal he gave you when you bought the damn TV in the 1st place.. I also remember how dreadfully "Cheap & Nasty" American consumer goods were getting about this time.. Plastiwood & fibreboard cabinets, except on the very "TOTL" stuff, "Carnival grade" plastic buttons & fitments, the whole business of being built DOWN to a price, instead of "Up to a Standard". The SAD fact of the matter was, Sony had a superior product, in many respects, & the American consumer electronics industry got caught being flatfooted.... Christamighty, WE developed Television-For the most part, anyway, & UNQUESTIONABLY developed COLOR TV, & we let it get taken away from us...But we have only ourselves to blame...
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:55 PM
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I wish Sony stayed focused on their electronics products then buying out interests in the Hollywood entertainment industry.
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