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once you set the color sync with any given source, be, be it a color bar generator, DVD, or what ever, you should NOT have to change it again. the fact that it is still giving problems is an indication that the IF is still off alignment.
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Well I feel it can’t be that far off being if cable worked the dvd would work to but right now it’s just the dvd. Back to the dread. The colors on that pattern is still off alittle so if I get that pattern perfect maybe then it will be good on cable
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Does the cable box have a composite video and audio out? If it does why not connect that to the modulator you use for the DVD player if that modulator works better. If all the cable box has is RF and HDMI use a either a VCR to convert the RF to audio and composite video for the modulator or an HDMI to AV converter. Analog composite audio video switch boxes are cheap at the thrifts if you need to have multiple video sources feeding the modulator.
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Probably. It could also be that the cable box has such a lousy modulator that some sets don't work well with it. I typically only use Blonder Tongue modulators to feed my sets because I've had cheaper consumer modulators so lousy that they would only work properly with some SS era sets...I know the BTs are professional enough that I don't have to worry about "don't sue me" level design becoming a problem with them so I try to stick to using the BTs.
Literally some of the cheap built in modulators in consumer cable boxes, VCRs, etc are so cheap they don't suppress the unused sideband of the video carrier causing interference with adjacent channels and issues with older sets tuning the wrong sideband, issues with audio RF level being wrong, incorrect output frequency, cascaded single osc modulators allowing over modulated video to create unfixable video buzz in the audio etc. It could be either the modulator in the cable box or the alignment or both...It's up to you to figure out which. The run the cable box through the good DVD modulator idea I mentioned in my last post can help you determine which it is.
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A consumer cable box isn't necessarily going to have a good modulator let alone a broadcast quality modulator in it. If one modulator works good with the TV and another doesn't, then just stick with what works and stop bringing extra variables into play.
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Ok so I understand that the cable boxes are digital now so to try to rule this out I need to find an RF modulator that is for old TV sets where it has cable in and the correct signal out for an old tv I guess an analog signal. Does anyone know what they are called or where I can get one. Years back it was on the news warning people the signal was changing and there tvs won’t work.
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You say all your black and white sets work fine. Those sets are analog. So, whatever you are plugging into the antenna terminals of those sets should work with your analog color set.
When you are describing the hookup, please be specific and step by step, like: 1. coax from wall to cable box. 2. cable box output (say what it is called on the box) to coax cable to matching transformer 3. matching transformer to TV antenna screw terminals |
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HDMI output only? are you using something like this? https://www.amazon.com/GANA-Composit...ct_top?ie=UTF8 something like this will NEVER work on vintage TVs I have tried, they are JUNK you will get NO color or barber pole effect due to the sloppy colorburst it puts out, solid state TVs work MOST of the time, but tube, NEVER will. you must have a Cable box that outputs composite video (ntsc) for it to work correctly
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This picture is what I’m using to run my flat tv but then I put a splitter in and one goes to the flat tv and the other to my b&w sets. How and what do you use for your color sets if you have a HDMI box output only. What do I have to do or buy to get the correct signal to this tv.
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I've got an older metal box HDMI to AV adapter that's out of production that works better. Though my go-to is an HDMI to ATSC transmitter and a DTV converter box for my tube sets...It's expensive but gives me the best quality and aspect ratio control I've been able to get from HDMI sources. This video gives an overview of that stuff. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKjt3x4WtWU
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the review i left for it VERY poor quality. But that is not surprising for the amount spent on the unit, I was hoping it might work, but like many others who got it, I was disappointed. I got this unit to try to convert HDMI to composite for a vintage TV, if you are expecting black and white only, then this may work for you, but if you want color, get something of better quality, because the colorburst freq this puts out is WAY OFF, meaning that any vintage equipment can't lock on meaning NO COLOR at all, or barberpoleing if it tries to lock in color. The only way to get this to work correctly is to run it through a time base corrector to correct the colorburst phase errors and get TRUE NTSC color out of it, which makes getting the thing rather pointless. Bottom line, get something better.
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