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Old 02-22-2023, 01:29 PM
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I'm sure that if you follow his examples in the video, it should be OK, he may even see this thread sooner or later and offer some sagely advice, having done this so many times before.
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Old 02-22-2023, 01:42 PM
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This is what I used on my sets that have this ballast config. The 200 ohm is 20 watt.

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Old 02-22-2023, 01:51 PM
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This is what I used on my sets that have this ballast config. The 200 ohm is 20 watt.
Wow thank you so much! I'll probably make both the resistor and capacitor version and see how they work.

BTW, I didn't check video signal with the scope but I had continuity between the 6AU6 plate and the CRT so there's no mechanical issue. The coils are good and I changed the capacitor just for good measure. Still no image getting through...just sound and the bright and full screen raster.
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What checking with the scope would tell is if the video is getting to the cathode of the CRT at the needed amplitude for a picture, w/o any distortion, if it is, the sync may be SO FAR out of wack that it MIGHT obscure video display ( unlikely, but who knows.) , or the voltages at the CRT are so far off, it just can't let it show video, assuming that it's good enough to in the first place.
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Old 02-22-2023, 02:18 PM
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What checking with the scope would tell is if the video is getting to the cathode of the CRT at the needed amplitude for a picture, w/o any distortion, if it is, the sync may be SO FAR out of wack that it MIGHT obscure video display ( unlikely, but who knows.) , or the voltages at the CRT are so far off, it just can't let it show video, assuming that it's good enough to in the first place.
Yeah...way to go on this one. On these electrostatic focus tubes, I don't have anything to go on to judge quality other than the brightness of the picture and the fact that it's not the original, it's an RCA 7JP4 and bright. N way to test on my Sencore CRT tester. No matter at this point. I've got a ballast to build. I can check the CRT voltages once that's done...as long as I know what pins are HV.
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Old 02-22-2023, 02:20 PM
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Wow thank you so much! I'll probably make both the resistor and capacitor version and see how they work.

BTW, I didn't check video signal with the scope but I had continuity between the 6AU6 plate and the CRT so there's no mechanical issue. The coils are good and I changed the capacitor just for good measure. Still no image getting through...just sound and the bright and full screen raster.
Did you check the position of the contrast control ? I didn’t give the wattage for the others all the resistors listed that have the = mean that’s the ohms that I used for that one. The 2-150 ohm 2watt. 22-or 25 ohm 20 watt 37or 50 ohm 10 watt all these are what is in my sets. How about the position of the horizontal hold pot?

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A few things. You had a very rare after market glass Amperite ballast That's only the second 303 glass ballast I've seen in many years of looking.

They do not have a shield around them. They are prized because they actually regulate the current to the tubes. They're filled with hydrogen gas and have finely twisted iron wires. The hydrogen seeps into the iron and affects it's resistance. When the wire get's hot, some of the hydrogen is forced out and the resistance drops. That causes the wire to cool and it absorbs more gas.

That perforated metal tube is the stock ballast. It's just some resistance wire on a mica wafer like a toaster. That metal shield is to keep fingers away.


Here are four types. Left to right.
Clarostat aftermarket replacement.
Stock Motorola ballast.
Amperite glass ballast (this is a more common '459 type)
Homebrew using Capacitors, resistors and thermistor.

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This is my current design using diodes. Compact enough to fit in the original metal tube.

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Note this is for the 17A435459 ballast. The '303 is very similar but you will need to move one wire. I believe it's moving the connection from pin 6 to pin 5.
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I knew i had one!

SYLVANIA 40a1 ballast tube.

Not sure what it can be used in. :O
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I knew i had one!

SYLVANIA 40a1 ballast tube.

Not sure what it can be used in. :O
That one is definitely not for the small Motorolas.
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That one is definitely not for the small Motorolas.
https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/137/4/40A1.pdf

OK, so THIS is what it's used for,
no idea where I found it!
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I knew i had one!

SYLVANIA 40a1 ballast tube.

Not sure what it can be used in. :O
I think it was used in dual power portable radios.
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Old 02-23-2023, 04:37 PM
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Thanks everyone for their input and especially to Bob and others who took the time to post design drawings and their advice. I think I will give Bob's diode and thermistor design a try first as I have several of the CL-90s and a pack of 1N5408 diodes. I actually lost sleep last night over my clumsiness in losing the very rare 303 glass ballast in my mini-Hindenburg event. Oh the Humanity! Klutz!
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Old 02-23-2023, 04:47 PM
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Just bought this 459 replacement on eBay. Looks like this company (JFD) did make a replacement for the 303 at one time. I'll either modify it or canabalize it to make Bob's replacement
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