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Old 05-29-2013, 11:13 PM
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tv isn't cool...........

unless it comes from outer space:


finally got my c band back up.

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Old 05-30-2013, 09:42 PM
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Is there anything to see or watch? Looks like your LNB coax still needs to be hooked up.
I still have my old C & Ku band dish and receiver up and running but zero to see anymore.
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:19 PM
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Is there anything to see or watch? Looks like your LNB coax still needs to be hooked up.
I still have my old C & Ku band dish and receiver up and running but zero to see anymore.
Doing a multi lnb setup on that. If u look closely, you'll see one of the three leads is attached.


I have it parked between 99w and 101w, so i'm picking of the strongest transponders on both satellites.

On that feed, i get the nbc wyoming affiliate. 2 channels of metv, some network affiliates out of the Carribean.


Pretty much everything is encrypted, so yes, it's not like the old days when a
c band could pick up premium cable channels.

The bulk of low cost FTA receiver sales are for 97w, which carries a ton of middle eastern channels.

The other thing is if there are some true 1080i signals out there that u can get. Not the 1080i ignal your cable company steps on.


125w ku, offers several pbs tru high def channels. The picture quality with a hd set is off the chart.


The other lnb will be 91w, which has the reelz channel, and mediaset italia.

you can see whats available at www.sathint.com

just pick a satellite, and set the page to display clear/unencrypted channels.
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Old 05-31-2013, 03:12 PM
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Doing a multi lnb setup on that. If u look closely, you'll see one of the three leads is attached.
Noticed that, thought that might be the polarity motor control.


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I have it parked between 99w and 101w, so i'm picking of the strongest transponders on both satellites.

On that feed, i get the nbc wyoming affiliate. 2 channels of metv, some network affiliates out of the Carribean.


Pretty much everything is encrypted, so yes, it's not like the old days when a
c band could pick up premium cable channels.


125w ku, offers several pbs tru high def channels. The picture quality with a hd set is off the chart.


The other lnb will be 91w, which has the reelz channel, and mediaset italia.

you can see whats available at www.sathint.com

just pick a satellite, and set the page to display clear/unencrypted channels.
SO what receiver or decoder do you use? I have a FTA receiver with HDMI out and the LNB to go with it, but I've never taken them out of the box after perusing what's up there it can receive. (Got ahead of myself on that deal.)
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Old 05-31-2013, 05:52 PM
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Noticed that, thought that might be the polarity motor control.




SO what receiver or decoder do you use? I have a FTA receiver with HDMI out and the LNB to go with it, but I've never taken them out of the box after perusing what's up there it can receive. (Got ahead of myself on that deal.)


retro tv is on 83w. Pentagon channel is on 101w. You'll need a true 36 inch fta dish. Popping a lnb on an old direct tv or dn dish will not work.


Montana and oklahoma pbs affiliates are on 125w ku. As well as the national feeds.
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:48 PM
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Popping a lnb on an old direct tv or dn dish will not work.
Intended to use my old 10' Winegard Pinnacle dish. The FTA LNB I bought is supposed to slide right into the old dual band Chaparral scalar ring. The old dish should capture enough signal to do it I figure.

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Old 06-01-2013, 03:02 PM
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Popping a lnb on an old direct tv or dn dish will not work.

Though this antenna might work...
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tv isn't cool...........

unless it comes from outer space
Very nice! Here is my 10-foot dish with C/Ku LNBs and a motor drive:


I have mostly used mine for the free music channels recently, though. I have a 4DTV DSR-922 receiver connected, and a Satwork MPEG receiver not hooked up at the moment.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:55 AM
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Very nice!!!

Is there still alot of ANALOGUE stuff on C BAND??
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:23 PM
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Very nice!!!

Is there still alot of ANALOGUE stuff on C BAND??
U can watch virtually anything, even on an older set, but u would have to manually downgrade the picture. for an older set, u would set the receiver to 480i to play hd content. You;ll be able to watch the program, just not in hd.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:15 AM
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Very nice!!!

Is there still alot of ANALOG stuff on C BAND??
There are four full-time channels in the clear, one that still uses Videocipher II encryption, and apparently a few on one of the Canadian satellites for a few hours each morning. Also, there may be random NTSC uplink feeds at various times still.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:54 PM
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Thats quite interesting.....

Do you know when most stuff started dropping analog usage on C-band bud??

Im trying to think wheather the cable I was watching ON ANALOG CABLE IN THE 90s was totally analog! (If the source from C-BAND wasnt,it wasnt total analogue)
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Do you know when most stuff started dropping analog usage on C-band??
Court TV was the first channel on C band to switch from NTSC to digital, in about 1996. The TV Food Channel (now called Food Network, I think?) was the first channel I know of that was digital right from the start, earlier than that but I do not remember what year. (When I say digital in this case, I mean the distribution to cable companies; it was definitely in NTSC to all of the subscribers as was everything else until the 21st century.)

The switch away from NTSC continued through the rest of the 1990s and early 2000s, but I was not a subscriber through that period (I had switched to HDTV), so I do not have more details than that.
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Back around 1989 I helped a Chinese friend set up a satellite dish (about 2 feet across) so he as his wife could get Chinese programming from some source in Los Angeles IIRC. They lived in upstate NY well out of range of New York City. An analog system, I had my friend set up a TV set on his patio so I could adjust the aiming of the dish, and the polarization of the module (LNB?) at the focal point of the dish. So I could get maximum signal to noise by looking at the results in real time on the set. I used my body to block some of the satellite signal when I was making final tweaks. He gave me my gold medal, seen in my sig picture below. I don't remember what band this system was on.

Found the Chinese video, then we had to tune a sound subcarrier tuner to get the correct language. Mandarin vs Cantonese (both sound like random noise to a white trash American such as myself). We also found what looked like news footage feed on other channels, as if one station was sending requested news footage to another TV station.
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