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Old 10-13-2015, 07:10 PM
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Where might I find the aforementioned idler tire? Would some place like SMC Electronics have it? and if so how much?
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Stock #: VCRIW41 5 bux...
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:41 PM
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I see there is still a lot of the black goo from the old rubber in the pulley. That needs to be cleaned with naphtha or lighter fluid will do nicely, otherwise the new belt will stick to it.



That plastic ring- cut it off. It breaks off that smoothing roller. Or take it apart like I used to do. I used to take the arm off, add a layer of tape to the plastic where the brass roller fits to take up the loose play. Sometimes the bottom would break off instead, allowing the brass part to fall down actually drag on the tape since it couldn't turn.

Those were not particularly reliable machines even back in the day.
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:57 PM
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I see there is still a lot of the black goo from the old rubber in the pulley. That needs to be cleaned with naphtha or lighter fluid will do nicely, otherwise the new belt will stick to it.



That plastic ring- cut it off. It breaks off that smoothing roller. Or take it apart like I used to do. I used to take the arm off, add a layer of tape to the plastic where the brass roller fits to take up the loose play. Sometimes the bottom would break off instead, allowing the brass part to fall down actually drag on the tape since it couldn't turn.

Those were not particularly reliable machines even back in the day.
I was using 70% Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol to take the goo off of the pulleys which works as well, I don't have access to lighter fluid or that Naptha stuff you're talking about, anyways that idler tire definitely seems to be what's wrong with it because it doesn't engage properly with the capstan pincher motor (which is also supposed to drive the take-up reel) and anyways I wonder if a regular O-Ring from the Hardware store of the appropriate diameter would work to replace the old rubber on the idler tire in question...

That Idler by the way is a pain in the butt to get out of there because you have to remove the capstan pincher motor which is held into place with 4 screws of which 2 of the screws are only accessible only after removing the pincher roller assembly and then you can get that darned blasted idler tire out!

But anyways I would think that once that idler tire (or at least the rubber on it anyways) is replaced I think then it should start working again.
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:59 PM
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Do you get google on your computer? First hit:

Stock #: VCRIW41 5 bux...
Yes I have access to google, and I guess I'll go see if I can look that part up.
I wonder though if just a regular old O-Ring from the hardware store of the appropriate size would work to replace the old rubber on the idler tire assembly on this VCR?
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Old 10-14-2015, 01:22 PM
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Well I've got the rewind and f. forward working perfectly, but still no dice on the play function, the capstan pincher roller assembly I've noticed isn't engaging properly, when it engages with the tape, it only engages part of the way in instead of all the way in, because when I put a little force onto the pincher roller assembly and the tape starts moving in play mode but then the VCR kicks the tape back out of the mechanism.

So what should I look into now? I was able to get the idler tire to work again (apparently the idler tire mechanism and the solenoid mechanism was out of whack which is why the idler tire wasn't engaging with the capstan motor) so now I just need to figure out why the pincher roller isn't engaging with the tape which is what's causing the no play issue (the pincher roller mechanism also engages the top side of the idler tire mechanism with the take-up reel and since that's not engaging properly its not playing). Also I noticed that when I try to rewind a tape that's longer than an hour the rewind mechanism poops out once it gets towards the beginning of the tape, the fast forward part works fine but the rewind just can't rewind completely a tape that's longer than an hour (90+ minute tapes).

any ideas folks?

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Old 10-15-2015, 11:34 PM
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Well went back to the computer store where I picked up this VCR at in their freebie pile and I looked back over their freebie pile (technically it was a bin but either way) and to my amazement on the very bottom of the freebie pile bin was sitting the original remote for this VCR so I reached down in there and pulled it out and sure enough the remote showed signs that it had been chewed on by a dog (the 15' cable was taped up in a couple of spots presumably to cover up some spots where the original owner's dog had chewed the cord and then the actual control interface of the remote (where the buttons are at) had bite marks and scuff marks from where a dog had apparently chewed on the remote. Anyways I got the remote home plugged the VCR in, and plugged in the remote to it to test if it still worked or not after all these years and sure enough every function that was testable in the VCR's current running condition (rewind, fast forward and the play button) seem to work fine (not sure about the special effects, pause, record and audio dub functions as the VCR still can't play a tape properly yet) and the channel button doesn't seem to work right, as when I tried to change the channel with it it would randomly activate either the rewind, fast forward, or play functions instead or it would just shut the VCR off period (which I don't think its supposed to do those things which tells me that the circuit board probably needs cleaning from sitting for so long unused).
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Old 11-15-2015, 02:51 PM
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Do you get google on your computer? First hit:

Stock #: VCRIW41 5 bux...
I need an idler tire not an idler wheel. The idler wheel assembly is just fine as there's no rubber on it to go bad. The part I'm worried about is the idler tire that works with the take-up reel, that part (which was highlighed in one of the pictures I had previously posted on here) is dried out to the point that its not allowing the take-up reel to move.
So which idler tire would I need to get? I have already identified one or two parts that may or may not be the part that I need but I need someone else's insight to let me know for sure if this idler tire part would indeed work for what I need.
I had identified VCRIT41 over at SMC Electronics as being a possibility but I would like to know for sure if that's actually the part I need to rebuild the ider for the take-up reel.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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Old 11-16-2015, 03:18 PM
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An Update on this VCR: I finally got it going!

There was actually nothing wrong with the idler tire or anything, it turns out it was the back belt (the third belt that wasn't mentioned in the cross-reference material for this VCR) that was bad, it was part of the tape loading mechanism and it was dragging causing the mechanism to not fully engage for playback, so I removed the belt subbed in a rubber band for the belt and sure enough the VCR started working, so now to order a proper belt for the VCR and I should be up and running again with this VCR!

Thanks for all the help everyone gave me with this VCR!
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:48 PM
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OK So I got the playback mechanism working like its supposed to, but for some reason I'm not getting any video output of any sort out of this VCR, I have it hooked up to my Flat Panel TV and all I get is a Blue Screen out of the TV with the VCR playing and I don't even get any white noise/snow from the tuner section, and I'm not sure what's going on with it. I was thinking at first that maybe the RF Modulator inside the VCR might of been bad so I tried hooking it up through the A/V output jacks and even that wasn't giving any video output so I'm wondering what's going on or what I should look at next.

EDIT: I hooked the VCR to my old Sony Trinitron TV in my basement and the VCR seems to be functioning like it should except I don't get any video feed from the tape when I hit play all I get is a blank black screen which its almost like the A/V mute function which kicks in when the tape is initially being loaded doesn't kick itself off (because I know that when most VCRs go to play tape initially the screen is blank at first for a split second before the video from the tape kicks in) but its almost as if that initial video and audio blanking doesn't stop like its supposed to.

Any ideas as to what might of happened with the VCR, and where I should look next?

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