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More screen anomalies
Okay, I'm at the end of what I can do and have followed every suggestion. Not only do I still have the very distracting jail bars, but I also have some other anomaly that kind of looks like what you see when they show the magnetic field of the planet.
I have check for every possible interference from the RF unit all the way to the IF inputs. I have tried rerouting the wires around the antenna leads and still they persist. They do seem to change shape with certain changes in brightness, but that might just be them becoming harder to see. I did my best to capture them on screen. You'll see them quite clearly (as well as the massive jail bars). I really had hopes of making this set my main one, but if I can't get her looking good she's going into storage. With the convergence problem, this makes three that are distracting me from enjoying the picture.
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That's odd looking, looks like moire patterns.
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Looks like it could be interference.. (RF)
Is there anything near your TV buddy?? Good luck! |
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Yes its moire. not rare in that vintage CRT. Not much you can
do for it, adj bright, contrast, focus can help sometimes. With that blank picture you should go along the video chain & look for where the jailbars start with scope. 73 Zeno |
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since you have already chased horz blanking, another long shot, the damper diode on the horz out.
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Last edited by andy; 12-05-2021 at 07:54 PM. |
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This is some interference from a ringing of a sharp blanking diode, or transistor, or damper, etc. that is not decoupled properly. Take a scope and see if you can see it on the power supply near the video amp transistors.
Did you re-cap this set?
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I don't think I'm the first to try and fix the jail bars. The more I check the horizontal, the more evidence I find of someone else going the same route. The first was the diode in the blanking circuit. It had already been cut and soldered back together. Now I see that someone cut and resoldered the leg of the boost rectifier (CR219). I'll have to get back under the chassis to see if they also did the same to the damper (CR218) on the horizontal output. I'll also look at the booster rectifier (CR221). They're all the same part number: 103-193. I haven't been able to find NOS, but NTE makes a replacement (NTE506).
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Nothing near it. I also made sure nothing else was around the RF modulator. If I connect the RF to my other CCII, the pattern isn't there.
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I went through and replaced all transistors in blanking, video output, amps, etc. There was no change and I put all the originals back and kept the new for backups. I replaced the blanking diode and the resistors that work with it, but that didn't help. That leaves the three diodes around the horizontal output and I'll be ordering them tomorrow.
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That is coming from inside the set. And it is coming from the horizontal circuit somewhere. It is easy to see because it occurs regularly and keys off the horiz. sync.
it is occurring 10 times or there about during the scan. So from the pulse to trigger the 1/15734 it is allowed to "ring" and cause interference. This could be a poorly decoupled r/c, or, l/c circuit. You would need to check waves with a scope, look for fuzzy waves, there could be a ringing, that you would have to look up at that frequency for.... 10 in the space of 1/15734 That is a ringing of a pulse..... Look for decoupling caps where there are high voltage 1/15734 pulse....
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I'm trying to get my hands on a better scope. It was hard enough for me to find the waveforms with the scope, but if I have to count them, I might lose my mind. Maybe I can get them on this scope. I'll give it a try, but I'm sure the only hope is a better scope.
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Last edited by andy; 12-05-2021 at 07:54 PM. |
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So I should look at all the caps that go directly to ground in the horizontal circuit?
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