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Old 04-16-2016, 05:48 PM
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:40 PM
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The "sun screen" made the set look like it wasnt a TV when
off. It was like magic when you turned it on & a bright
I swear that the very first thought I had when I saw the photos was that I would have sworn at first glance that it was a microwave oven.
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:54 PM
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I swear that the very first thought I had when I saw the photos was that I would have sworn at first glance that it was a microwave oven.
It does have that look. In person the screen was totally black
when off. At the time some Jap sets had sun screens but they
were more liked smoked plastic & very small screened. This beast was
like nothing else. I cant remember anything like it. Very impressive
& ultra modern space age stuff. The SS chassis held up well & I
think there are many more survivors than the tube model that
dried up & got junked within 5 yrs.

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Old 04-16-2016, 09:19 PM
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It really looks like something you would fit into a custom built bookcase.

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Old 04-17-2016, 07:29 AM
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Old 04-17-2016, 08:35 AM
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Awesome commercial, thanks! It definitely is a beast. It has a handle but this set is heavy to lug round.
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:35 AM
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Zeno,

Interested in why you aren't a fan of W television sets. And your experience with their repair and servicing perspectives. Your thoughts, please.
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:59 PM
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The fact Westinghouse made electrical generation and distribution equipment seemed to show up in their sets as rugged, if economical, power supplies and sweep circuits. Flybacks in their color sets were silicone coated while RCA's were flaming out everywhere. I do recall W using more safety equipment on their sets. I have the second to last 19" color set from 1968. It is a very odd design with series heaters and many 6GH8's, but it has a lead sheet covering the back of the CRT from mask to yoke. My guess is the Nuclear division had a say in that.

The signal-processing performance was not at all impressive and probably modeled after Emerson. Both were made in North Jersey and the similarities on the inside were more than coincidental. They seemed to have only a few models overall though W made TVs through the 1960s. I would not be surprised they hung on to the home appliances, lamp divisions, etc if only to retain brand recognition among the masses.

That said, if you were in a fringe area, you were always better off with a Zenith, Admiral, Philco, Sylvania or RCA - But its my second favorite make as a collector.
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Old 04-26-2016, 01:09 PM
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Zeno,

Interested in why you aren't a fan of W television sets. And your experience with their repair and servicing perspectives. Your thoughts, please.
Part of it was there were not a lot of them so never got used to them.
The color chassis was a bit cheaply made & messy looking. Also
very tube hungry sets. B&W's were better but many suffered from
slipping tuner wafers & yokes. Hard to describe but they always
seemed to be missing "something" like an Emerson or GE
with a few years on it.
And the owner hated them to. Had one someone got for free.
Great cabinet but high miles. He begged here NOT to fix it but she
could only see the cabinet. Took a bunch of tubes then she pulled
the old "my husband has the check book" scam. A week later
the FBT burned up & she wouldnt buy one. Never got a dime from the
bitch. A few yrs later at another shop I sold her a bottom line GE
range. I told her it only had one rack. 2 days later she was in
screaming for a free rack. I told her to call GE, it was hers.
She was really pissed off but I got some vengence for the W TV
screwing. They see & hear what they want to not the facts.

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Old 04-28-2016, 04:57 PM
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Love this perspective from a serviceman's point of view. Hardly ever saw a W set in Eastern Tennessee. Here RCA, Zenith, and Magnavox were dominant (the last locally built), and our sets tended to need fringe capable tuners and front ends for any reception. Growing up in Alcoa, TN/Maryville, TN we did have a W dealer, J&K Store (mainly groceries, sold a few W appliances in the day. Hardly ever see any looking in that area.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:07 AM
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Love this perspective from a serviceman's point of view. Hardly ever saw a W set in Eastern Tennessee. Here RCA, Zenith, and Magnavox were dominant (the last locally built), and our sets tended to need fringe capable tuners and front ends for any reception. Growing up in Alcoa, TN/Maryville, TN we did have a W dealer, J&K Store (mainly groceries, sold a few W appliances in the day. Hardly ever see any looking in that area.
They were almost rare here. If you want fringe you are correct. Most
2nd & 3rd tier sets lacked what it took or lost it fast. W certainly
had the know how & $$ to build anything but why throw $$ at something
loosing. It was time to design solid state color sets & would have been
interesting to see what they came up with. Today it would be fun
to work on one, I may even change my mind on them being 40 yrs old
& wiser. One thing I have realized is almost everyone made some
great sets & some JUNK. Its the percentage that mattered.

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Old 04-29-2016, 07:11 PM
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Love this perspective from a serviceman's point of view. Hardly ever saw a W set in Eastern Tennessee. Here RCA, Zenith, and Magnavox were dominant (the last locally built), and our sets tended to need fringe capable tuners and front ends for any reception. Growing up in Alcoa, TN/Maryville, TN we did have a W dealer, J&K Store (mainly groceries, sold a few W appliances in the day. Hardly ever see any looking in that area.
Knox Department Store and Woodruffs in Knoxville were pretty big in Westinghouse. The guy I worked for had a contract with both stores through the 60's to deliver and service Westinghouse televisions for them. When I bought the store from him, we had filing cabinets full of W service literature.

I still have a large, round thermometer and matching electric clock advertising Westinghouse tubes.
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Old 05-01-2016, 02:06 PM
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Remember Knox Department Store and Woodruffs very well. Interesting about you working for the contracted service company. Somewhere, I have a photo of the old Downtown Maryville J&K Store's W signs. If I can find it, and get a scan, I'll try to post it.
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Old 05-01-2016, 03:30 PM
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I should say, Kent, that it was before my time. He serviced a lot of Westinghouse sets in the 60's, but sold Motorola/Quasar. By the time I went to work there in the late 80's, we done warranty work for RCA, GE, and Magnavox. We also handled Goldstar and Samsung warranty work for the Chapman Highway K-Mart.
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Old 05-01-2016, 03:59 PM
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Most of the W sets in our area came from appliance stores just like
GE & Hotpoint. Very few ran a service dept for TV.
My brothers a nuke engineer. Need a bomb or power plant ?
His last job was with W. IIRC something about rebuilding fuel rods.
W is still a big player but not recognized like GE. Most of the
nuke biz seems to be W, GE, & CE ( combustion Engineering ).
Remember also W took Teslas ideas & brought them to market.
Edison treated him like shit, NOT the probably greatest mind we
ever had. And I wont go into Bell, the Canadians beat him but
he gets all the credit.
Reminds me of an old saying where I came from.
" Acton supplied the men, Concord supplied the ground, and
Lexington took all the credit". ( Rev war, old north bridge).

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