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Old 11-23-2018, 08:33 AM
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Recommendation for Isolation Transformer

I'm in need of an isolation transformer because my (very) old one died. Any recommendations for one? A quick scan on Amazon left me concerned and confused because there are negative comments about improper isolation for some of them.

Btw, I don't anticipate needing more than 200W (at 115V).

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Old 11-23-2018, 09:31 AM
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Some of the Sola constant voltage isolation transformers are good when the line voltage fluctuates.

Isolation trans show up at antique radio and ham swapmeets regularly usually for cheep.

In a pinch, if you have two step down or step up transformers with the same secondary voltage (identical transformers are best) you can connect a secondary from one to a secondary of the other, plug the primary of one into the wall and the device you want isolated into the floating secondary... filament trans are nice for this because you can hook a low voltage lamp to the secondaries and use it as a power indicator...Can even steal heater voltage for experiments off of the low voltage windings. I hear a pair of microwave oven trans will make for a very ballsy isolation transformer (something that can handle ~500W+ watts easily), but the ~3KV AC on the secondaries, when powered, is lethal to touch so building an enclosure is IMO necessary for safety.
I've also used this hack to power up transformer radios with open primary/line voltage windings...All that you have to do is connect a heater trans of the right voltage to the radios heater line and the B+ winding if still good will turn that into B+.

BTW even a good isolation transformer can stop isolating...I had one that appeared to be made in the 30's-50's that I used for a number of years until one day a chassis I was servicing bit me...I took out my DMM and discovered there was significant Primary to secondary voltage. It really surprised me that it could fail like that, and goes to show you gotta test your test equipment for failure sometimes. It is part of the reason I like that hacking two transformers into an isolation trans trick...In that method there are two points of isolation doubling the breakdown voltage, making it twice as hard for primary to secondary leakage, and providing a failsafe isolation if one of the two trans develops a primary to secondary short.
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Old 11-24-2018, 08:50 AM
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Thanks, Tom. I don't have any extra transformers to make one so I'll check out what Sola has.

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Old 11-24-2018, 10:41 AM
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Problem with the newly manufactured units is that they likely will have the 3 wire ground lug follow through to the mains ground. So they are not truly isolated in that respect, which would be a problem if you're attempting to isolate a piece of test equipment that has a third wire ground on it's power cord. You could potentially have a bad day(hopefully would blow a circuit breaker) if your modern scope were plugged into the isolation unit while also connected to a hot chassis. However a little DIY modification(snip snip) would easily remedy that situation.

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Old 11-24-2018, 01:16 PM
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The isolation transformer should be used on the device under test, NOT the test equipment!

If you need an isolated scope to make a floating measurement, get a high voltage differential probe or a battery powered scope. Don't float it with an isolation transformer or break the earth ground connection.
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Old 11-24-2018, 08:14 PM
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The isolation transformer should be used on the device under test, NOT the test equipment!
Ordinarily you wouldn't isolate a scope. But all it takes is a brain fart and you get a big surprise. To complicate matters, some isolation transformers have un-isolated convenience outlets on the front that are in my opinion a big no-no.
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Old 11-26-2018, 08:57 PM
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I have a Oneac 500VA isolation transformer (picked up at a warehouse my boss bought) around here I use for TVs an another Oneac 75VA (at surplus for cheap) around here for radios. Both have served me well for years.
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