AMC Eagle

[MadMan]

Originally Posted by quaddriver

couple hundred on an M50d, a little less for an SROD, 3G for a vw M6...it all depends

Dude, I'm a transmission mechanic, and even I don't know what you're talking about lol.

Also, he already had the trans rebuilt.

[quaddriver]

Originally Posted by MadMan

Dude, I'm a transmission mechanic, and even I don't know what you're talking about lol.

Also, he already had the trans rebuilt.

yes, I had 6 more pages of reading to do, but M5OD is a mazda built, ford used 5spd with overdrive from the 80s 90s etc, SROD is also a ford et al used 3spd + od used with many gearsets and many forms everywhere - ford, jeep etc and the VW trans is the 6spd they adopted in mid 00's what has to have the input bearings replaced from the inside and is a miserable biotch to work on. point is, the first 2 manuals, inout, output bearings, seals, bushings etc, excluding hard parts like gears are only a couple hundred in parts and a few hours of your life and most people can do them on their front porch while sipping mint juleps.

[MIPS]

I hope that damn transmission never gives me another problem ever again, or in the next 80000km.

[MadMan]

Originally Posted by quaddriver

point is, the first 2 manuals, inout, output bearings, seals, bushings etc, excluding hard parts like gears are only a couple hundred in parts and a few hours of your life and most people can do them on their front porch while sipping mint juleps.

You misunderstand. I'm a legit transmission mechanic. I was trying to say that paying a proper mechanic to R&R and rebuild a manual transmission is an expensive thing nowadays. Parts may be only a couple hundred, but that's also true of automatic transmissions. It's really just a market thing, nobody rebuilds manual's anymore, so the going rate has gone way up.

Not to mention the fact that, no, MOST people could not, in fact, rebuild any transmission on their porch. At least, not if my imbecile customers are any indication of the average motorist's intelligence.

[Jon A.]

Originally Posted by MadMan

You misunderstand. I'm a legit transmission mechanic. I was trying to say that paying a proper mechanic to R&R and rebuild a manual transmission is an expensive thing nowadays. Parts may be only a couple hundred, but that's also true of automatic transmissions. It's really just a market thing, nobody rebuilds manual's anymore, so the going rate has gone way up.

Not to mention the fact that, no, MOST people could not, in fact, rebuild any transmission on their porch. At least, not if my imbecile customers are any indication of the average motorist's intelligence.

Now the cost of rebuilding manuals makes sense to me.

Just about anyone who drives the newest cars and can't turn a wrench--or even use their mirrors--is an imbecile. Any imbecile who can use a manual at all probably burns them up pretty fast.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Jon A.

Now the cost of rebuilding manuals makes sense to me.

Just about anyone who drives the newest cars and can't turn a wrench--or even use their mirrors--is an imbecile. Any imbecile who can use a manual at all probably burns them up pretty fast.

I had to have a clutch replaced once, but not a manual transmission. The pressure plate went bad, too much city driving.

[Jon A.]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

I had to have a clutch replaced once, but not a manual transmission. The pressure plate went bad, too much city driving.

That's the only drawback to a manual in my opinion. I get bored easily with automatics so an occasional clutch replacement would be worth the tradeoff. I'd just learn to replace them myself, that's how I get almost everything else done.

[MIPS]

Winter update.

Pretty much nothing happened because the Transmission bill was only paid in full as of two days ago so I could not purchase new tools and it got dry and really cold so working on the interior wasn't happening.
But it did snow last night, so even without jackstands it was a good time to see if the 4WD was REALLY stuck in the engaged position. The answer is no as it failed to climb the driveway. The Eagle is interesting because in the 82 model it went from AWD to full-time 4WD using the SlectDrive system which with one vacuum switch engages the transfer case and locks the front axle.



The problem however is the actuators are also valves, so if one gets stuck the entire system fails. The front axle actuator hides under a skidplate and is a part of the axle assembly and has no manual control. You better hope it fails in the locked position. The Transfer Case actuator however is accessible through a hole in the transfer case skid plate and can be manually operated with a 9/16 spanner. When doing so however there was a hiss that came from somewhere along the route of the vacuum lines, so there is a leak somewhere, otherwise the front DID fail in the locked position and this morning was a joyful ride through the snow and unploughed streets, pointing and laughing at people in their Ford/GMC/Dodge trucks and SUV's who were spinning out or otherwise were stuck in six inches of snow.