English NTSC TV's.

[wa2ise]

Originally Posted by ppppenguin

8VSB is more resistant to doppler effcts if the TX or RX is moving. Not usually a problem for domestic TVs

Tall towers, that the UHF DTV transmitting antennas are mounted at the top of, tend to sway in the wind. This sway can be as much as a good fraction of a wavelength of the carrier frequency up on UHF. That, combined with some significant ghosts, can make the conditions at a receiver be constantly changing. Which adds extra fun in receiver decoder design...

[ppppenguin]

Originally Posted by wa2ise

Tall towers, that the UHF DTV transmitting antennas are mounted at the top of, tend to sway in the wind. This sway can be as much as a good fraction of a wavelength of the carrier frequency up on UHF. That, combined with some significant ghosts, can make the conditions at a receiver be constantly changing. Which adds extra fun in receiver decoder design...

I think that's only a problem for 8VSB where the equaliser has a lot of work to do. The speed at which the top of the tower moves isn't high enough to give doppler shift that would trouble any plausible COFDM signal.

[old_tv_nut]

Originally Posted by wa2ise

Tall towers, that the UHF DTV transmitting antennas are mounted at the top of, tend to sway in the wind. This sway can be as much as a good fraction of a wavelength of the carrier frequency up on UHF. That, combined with some significant ghosts, can make the conditions at a receiver be constantly changing. Which adds extra fun in receiver decoder design...

Doppler performance in COFDM (DVB) is limited by inter-carrier interference between the many closely-spaced carriers. Single carrier (ATSC) Doppler performance is limited by the tracking ability of the receiver equalizer, which is greatly affected by the frequency of transmission of a reference signal. In ATSC for fixed terrestrial reception, the reference sync segment is transmitted approximately 40 times per second, too slow for mobile reception. The mobile adaptation of ATSC transmits a reference approximately 800 times per second during the mobile portion of the data. COFDM achieves mobile performance by using modes with fewer, more widely spaced carriers, and through the use of reference "pilot" carriers that are inserted with the necessary density in time and frequency.