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Stop appliance genocide
I can no longer remain silent about this heinous baloney.
Our classic 50's refrigerators are being slandered in a most despicable way. First it was the compact fluorescent lamps, now its refrigerators. The misinformation campaigns by these silly energy consulting-marketers is more than I can take!!!!! The Kelvinator was made by NASH in DETROIT and uses LESS than a new one does! Here are my experiences measuring actual energy consumption of FOUR refrigerators using a kilowatt-hour meter at my premises. Both classic fridges are in a garage and summer kitchen and opened regularly over 2 months of blistering heat last summer. Westinghouse 1947 - inside freezer box - 0.6 kilowatthours/day Kelvinator 1953? - top freezer - 1.3 kilowatthours/day GE 18cf 1985-top freezer - 2.3 kilowatthours/day (basement- AC) Whirlpool 18cf 1997-top freezer - 2.4 kilowatthours/day (kitchen- AC) PPL oldest fridge promo.pdfKelvinator (1).jpg Kelvinator.jpgNash-Kelvinator.jpg |
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If they told you the older ones use less energy, they wouldn't sell too many new ones. My sony LCD uses 300 watts of power about the same as a roundie color set. Not much savings there. The Sony is always consuming energy while plugged in and the old sets do not. People will believe almost anything they're told.
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Mine only uses 90-95 Watts. A 40" Sony 40V4100.
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As far as refrigerators, my old Sears Coldspot I think it was, a late '70s model 17-18 cu ft avocado green color, separate freezer on top, pulled just over 4 Amps when it ran. The '97 Whirlpool 22 cu ft freezer on the bottom black monolith pulls less than an Amp, about 100 Watts actually, when it runs. So there was a significant difference between those two.
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There's nothing more disappointing or even depressing than encountering a non-incandescent light.
Our local (Aussie/Canadian-investor-owned) power company is at or approaching maximum capacity using nasty coal-fired plants and other sources to sell electric power to its customer base. They push Chinese Compact Flourescent lamps literally into your hands, hoping you'll use them, keeping the gotta-upgrade boogeyman at bay a few more years. If everyone used hard-switched outlet strips on as many modern electronic devices as possible, you'd save enough energy to power a warm, freindly, soothing incandescent bulb by your favorite chair or bedside table |
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My parents had a side by side 24 cu ft GE that was "Harvest Gold" when they built the house in '69 it lasted until 1995 with NO maintenance. It pulled 7 amps IIRC I hate to think how much energy that beast consumed during its existence I strongly object to the notion that the oldest stuff is the most inefficient. |
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Just finished a Vizio 32 inch plasma. 277 watts draw on the watt meter. They have enough nerve to give it an energy star rating! I use a small dorm refrigerator in Mississippi that draws around 500 watts running. It runs on a 1200 watt generator if the power goes out. I defrost it once every two months.
And yes, I use a timer on a strip to turn off the electronics when I go to bed. Makes the capacitors in the power supplies last a lot longer! I use a small incandescent for a downstairs light as I don't trust the CFL power supplies since one started flickering and when I broke it open the board was darkened from heat and the capacitors were bulged! |
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[QUOTE=DavGoodlin;3036241]Those units made in the 60s-early70s were the biggest energy hogs and, just like the cars, got WORSE in the later 70s.
My parents had a side by side 24 cu ft GE that was "Harvest Gold" when they built the house in '69 it lasted until 1995 with NO maintenance. It pulled 7 amps IIRC I hate to think how much energy that beast consumed during its existence: I strongly object to the notion that the oldest stuff is the most inefficient.[/QUOTE SORRY thought you said you were agreing to it you said i OBJECT p.s. DONT MAKE IT MAD!
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AND THEY STILL LIVE...Imagine an appliance mfger building a fridge today to postwar standards...They'd be bankrupt in a year...
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Nobody could deliver them either, they're heavy bastards.
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i agree totaly alot of the older appliances run better use less power last longer ,unlike there modern counter part .there is also another fact that they fail to mention the older stuff when it is turned off is off the newer computerized appliances never turn off totaly there is always a ghost load to keep memory , other stuff just looks off its still almost fully on .for the last 5 yrs i have been adpt. solar panels to my house my way not to share with my local power comp. that will not pay if the meter is turning backwards they say they will only give a credit.
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How dare you use data do show what is actually green!
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I posted before, the local electric co-op ran a contest a year or so ago to find the oldest refrigerator still in use locally. The winner got a brand new unit to replace her 60 year old Philco. I wonder if her electric bill went up?
The real energy hogs, of course, are the old NO-FROST units. That's the part that gets ignored all the time.
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