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Old 02-21-2012, 09:40 PM
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Something here that may shed some light on the subject...

http://broadcastengineering.com/RF/D...-FCC-02162012/
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:58 PM
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After today's FCC ruling... I give analog cable six months, but little more.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:25 PM
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After today's FCC ruling... I give analog cable six months, but little more.
Yep the end days are near for analog cable...

http://broadcastengineering.com/ott/...nset_06132012/
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:42 PM
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Time Warner dropped analog TBS a few weeks back .
So, by Jan, 1, 2014, I won't have analog 2-13 fed by the cable co.?

Big loss.. the feeds are often skewed in the digital realm, as in a local news affiliate having dialog sync issues with visible pixelation, or channel 2 losing all sound for a few days.
The drop feed is over the course of a few blocks here, and the runs are all new RG6 with 3 split lines off my drop.
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:52 AM
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Well techinally THERE IS NO ANALOG CABLE ANYMORE..... (All they do is feed the digital channels onto an analog channel (Which is not true analog))
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:04 PM
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Sadly, you are correct. There is very little all-analog content available nowadays. Unless you have a tape library or produce live video, it is all digitized somewhere along the line.
I'm not saying that this is inherently bad; But it is what it is.
Sort of how audiophiles listen to FM stereo on quality tuners, when most(or all) stations are broadcasting music from digital source files.
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Old 08-04-2013, 03:27 AM
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Sadly, you are correct. There is very little all-analog content available nowadays. Unless you have a tape library or produce live video, it is all digitized somewhere along the line.
I'm not saying that this is inherently bad; But it is what it is.
Well I would say it is bad!!

They are slowly destroying all analog media AND ITS VERY SAD...... There is nothing better in my opinion!!
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:21 PM
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Update:
Cable bill this quarter had a statement regarding their ceasing analog cable service.
Free digital converters available til Dec. 2014, and then 99cents per month per converter as of Jan 2015.
Change occurs .."on or around June 18 2013"....guess that means 2014?(since it still works fine )

There goes free 2 through 13 in the garage and attic !!!!
I rather liked my 'vinyl records of TV service' haha
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:50 AM
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Update:
Cable bill this quarter had a statement regarding their ceasing analog cable service.
Free digital converters available til Dec. 2014, and then 99cents per month per converter as of Jan 2015.
Change occurs .."on or around June 18 2013"....guess that means 2014?(since it still works fine )

There goes free 2 through 13 in the garage and attic !!!!
I rather liked my 'vinyl records of TV service' haha
If those bandits at T-W cable discontinue analog cable, a vintage TV collector like me, has absolutely no further use for cable. I like to run my old sets through the channels, using the tuners and remote controls.
Even the Porta-Color I just acquired, gets channels on all positions of the tuner, even a few on UHF.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:41 PM
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Digital this, digital that; I have a two-word explanation for it all: cash grab.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:36 AM
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Wife and I always watch the Lawrence Welk show on PBS on Sunday nights. Time Warner here recently took to the HD changeover, and instead of the channels being unwatchable on analog sets, they're actually framed much better for analog sets......at least for the time being. On older shows that are in non-HD format, they put the black bars on the sides of the screen instead of top and bottom. Seems they stopped rearranging the picture to a wide aspect ratio.

Interestingly enough, with the black bars on the sides of the screen (and station logos placed in those bars on the sides in a relief tone in a similar color on some channels), the picture is just horrendously annoying. Whether this will change again and the picture eventually be totally unavailable for analog remains to be seen.

My wife said to me "we might have to get one of those old color sets up here for Sunday nights, this is just annoying"



Now of course I could play with the picture settings for each channel and broadcast that's like that, but that's a huge PITA.....
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:35 AM
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I remember when Lawrence Welk first came on TV. It was a summer replacement, sponsored by Dodge.
The later programs were sponsored by Geritol , very fitting.
How about Stan Freeberg's recording, Wunnerful, Wunnerful. Too funny.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:47 PM
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I don't like having to get my TV's original remote to change the aspect ratio on some programs either, such as Law and Order on USA network (my GE universal remote doesn't have a zoom button), but that's the way of it these days, like it or not. I know someone who doesn't even bother with the zoom on her flat screen TV--she just watches the programs as the stations transmit them.

I think what's happening is, little by little, the TV networks, including PBS and cable systems such as Time Warner, are changing all their programming to HD because they realize most people have flat screens these days. Further, I think the day is coming (if it hasn't already arrived) when there will be no more 4:3 analog NTSC televisions in use in the US, except for sets in the possession of collectors. HD flat screens are so inexpensive these days (I saw a Craig 19" LED LCD set advertised for $99 in a local Rite-Aid Pharmacy ad in my Sunday paper last week) that just about everyone has one, and has no use for analog TV.

I think it is a mistake, however, to abandon your old CRT set if it is still working. I say this because I have read many stories of people who threw out their old TV when they got a flat screen, then when the FS set quits they are without television. At least it is still possible to watch TV on Time Warner cable (perhaps on some other systems as well) simply by connecting the cable directly to the set, or through a 300-to-75-ohm matching transformer if you have an older TV; this will give you at least channels 2 through 13, which in many areas will insure you still get local channels, such as 3, 4 (downconvert of CBS channel 19), 5, 6, (downconvert of MyTV 43), 7 (QVC), 8, 9 (downconvert of CW 55), 23, 10 (downconvert of PBS channel 25) here in northeastern Ohio, and likely other areas as well. You won't get the popular cable channels with a direct coax connection, but you will get your area's broadcast channels, which are all many people watch anyway. I have very little use for broadcast TV these days except for news, PBS, and the three retro-TV channels (RTV, Antenna TV, MeTV). All the rest of my viewing is either on DVD or VHS; more the former than the latter, although my VHS tape library is much larger than my DVD collection at this time.

BTW (for Kamakiri): I didn't realize you had Time Warner cable; I thought you were still watching TV using an OTA antenna. I also did not realize TW cable is converting to HD. In fact, if you hadn't mentioned it in your post, I wouldn't have known it at all, since I do not get HD broadcast TV here. The reason is I am using a direct coax cable connection to the TV (Insignia 19" flat screen), without a cable box. I read somewhere it is impossible to get high-definition programming via coax. To get any kind of HD reception, one must use a cable box with an HDMI cable to the TV. Unfortunate, but again, that's the way of it.
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:24 PM
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Wife and I always watch the Lawrence Welk show on PBS on Sunday nights.
That doesn't really surprise me considering the source of your Ken Delo avatar. Fortunately I got back drag-and-drop image search ability in Google when I installed TenFourFox, and that was its first use.

Still haven't found a pic of a copper North-American Ford Granada Ghia. In spite of my very specific search string, I get mostly the Euro-trash. I haven't tried since the first time though. Might have to hit up a North-American Granada enthusiast site.

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Old 09-04-2013, 06:24 PM
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Look, OLD TVs are obsolete, I bought a Jensen portable TV w/ digital tuner a few years back for cheap. Everyone that saw it working was amazed how good picture quality was. If old TVs really had wide spread colectibility, SOMEONE would of saved ALL equipment from a CRT shop to refubish CRTS as a cottage industry. THERE was at the height of TV industry probaly a couple of hundred CRT rebuilding businesses worldwide?

Like I said obsolete like the hula hoop.............................................. .....





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