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Old 10-05-2009, 04:53 PM
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Replacing selenium rectifier in a Zenith

I know this topic is somewhat redundant, but I am somewhat of a noob. I have a Zenith model C724P, and would like to replace the selenium rectifier. I bought some 1N4007 diodes but what should I use for a resistor? Also, which side should the resistor be on? Anyone got any pics?
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:51 PM
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Over at antique radio forum there is a good rebuild of a Zenith TO where they covered this issue. This should help.

http://antiqueradios.com/forums/view...115812&start=0
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:34 PM
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I did this with mine:

Replacing selenium rectifiers with silicon diode or maybe a bridge rectifier.

Some AM-FM hot chassis sets use many tubes, too many to string in a 35W4 tube rectifier. So a selenium rectifier was used. Like wax capacitors, these will fail in time. Best replace the function with a silicon diode like a 1N4007. Add around 50 ohms 1 watt resistor in series, and check the operating B+ voltage to be sure it doesn't go higher than the electrolytic cap's voltage rating. Electrolytics can take a temporary overstress for a short while, like heater warm up time. You can use one side of the old selenium rectifier as a tie point, but the other end of the selenium rectifier must have nothing connected to it!. It doesn't matter which end of the selenium rectifier serves as the tie point. Check to be sure there are no leakage paths to the chassis.


I replaced the selenium rectifier in one AM/FM set with a bridge rectifier. Full wave rectification, less power supply hum (120Hz vs 60Hz). The heater string runs directly off the powerline (via power switch). The mid point of the heater string will look to have minimal AC waveform in reference to the B- line of the bridge rectifier. But will have a DC bias of about half the B+ voltage. This is fine, cathodes like their heaters to have a positive bias. One end of the audio output tube (for example a 50C5) (#8 in the diagram) heater is probably already connected to one of the AC lines. Disconnect the heater line of the other audio output heater pin. This line, now disconnected (feeding to tube #7), now will be connected to the other AC line. See diagram. And at the old ground end of the heater string, usually the AM or FM detector/ audio driver tube (#1) (19T8 for example) disconnect from ground and connect to the now loose end of the audio output tube heater. This should minimize hum pickup from the heater line. A small cap of around 0.1uF 400V or more tied close to the heater string midpoint should help reduce the AC waveform some more by holding a bias charge between the heater string and the B- ground of the radio during the time the bridge rectifier isn't conducting. The bridge diodes only conduct at the peaks of the AC powerline waveform.

Pay special attention to the AC line lead dress around the volume control power switch for hum pickup. Hot chassis radios usually switched the local ground feed line to avoid hum pickup from 120VAC to local ground wires. This could ruin the advantage of full wave rectification (less hum, 120Hz vs 60Hz) if not taken care of. Look for trouble by listening to silent passages in radio programming with the volume control at half setting (hum pickup can be more severe at this position). Shielding may be needed.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:57 PM
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Over at antique radio forum there is a good rebuild of a Zenith TO where they covered this issue. This should help.

http://antiqueradios.com/forums/view...115812&start=0
It did help quite a bit. I now know where to place the resistor in the circuit and I learned a new soldering technique for those hard-to-reach places. I will probably use a solder terminal for the diode and resistor like the pics illustrate, but I still don't know a good value to use for the power resistor. Is the value going to be significantly different for my radio considering it is not a Trans-Oceanic? Any suggestions on a good power resistor for this particular model?
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