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Old 06-20-2018, 08:08 PM
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Here in England diesel is more expensive that gas/petrol, when I was in Canary Islands a few weeks ago it was the other way round. What's cheapest in USA?
Diesel used to be much cheaper up until... maybe 10 years ago. These days they hover right next to each other, diesel seems to be more stable and changes price slower, while gas prices fluctuate a lot more. I think last week I saw diesel the exact same price as regular unleaded.
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Old 06-20-2018, 10:41 PM
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I just might be interested.....I'm quickly realizing that owning a '97 Miata in Buffalo means that you can take it out and enjoy it almost never.....so there's a 50/50 chance that's getting sold. I have a whole bunch of genuine Mazda tune up stuff coming for it, and it's only got 109K on the clock. Down side is that it's an auto.

I'm a neophyte when it comes to Mercedes, but I'm a quick study. I looked at an '83 W126 locally....looked decent from the photos, but although it ran, it ended up being a basket case.
I'm not sure that I've seen an 80's Mercedes diesel with less than about 160k, and that was 20+ years ago! Most were between 250-350k. Lower body rust was common. Vacuum powered central locks, when bored I would sit there with the key in the door and see how many cycles I could get before the vac ran out! The engine cut-off is vacuum powered as well. If you have a leak, well, the engine won't shut off even if you turn off the key, pull it out and walk away. You have to use the manual shut-off on top of the engine. They have a unique smell inside which I'm told is due to the horsehair stuffing in the seats (likely combined with the diesel exhaust smell). The wood trim on the dash and console always cracks. The turbo lag can be pretty wild, though it varies. On some cars acceleration can be downright dangerous until it kicks in, at which point it feels a little like a jet taking off (a little!) I've driven a non-turbo Benz, a total slug. With their oversized steering wheel and that diesel under the hood, I liked to imagine I was driving a bus
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:16 AM
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Ya, there are a lot of basket cases out there.

By 84 the turbo lag was improved. For 85 it was further improved with a higher stall speed torque converter, and a taller rear end ratio which helps fuel economy.

Be aware that most reman R4 ac compressors are not appropriate for the Mercedes. MB mounted it upside down compared to GM, which results in the oil passage for the bearings not getting oil.

This might be helpful for you:

http://eva2.homeip.net/

https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/...tedDocId=12265
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:25 AM
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The later 6 cylinder cars get out of their own way quite nicely on a cool day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srXc2xV0fO8

On a 100*f day the hot air does cause a fair bit of power loss... it feels like 30 less hp at the wheels. Add the power draw from the AC compressor and things do feel rather sluggish.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:54 AM
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Diesel used to be much cheaper up until... maybe 10 years ago. These days they hover right next to each other, diesel seems to be more stable and changes price slower, while gas prices fluctuate a lot more. I think last week I saw diesel the exact same price as regular unleaded.
Actually 15 years ago. When I bought my 2005 Diesel Jeep Liberty, Diesel fuel was about 10 to 20 cents cheaper than regular, then later in the year it shot up about 40 to 50 cents higher. That little scheme about lower operating cost backfired on me. Plus the oil changes were a lot higher too. The engine used synthetic oil.
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Old 06-21-2018, 02:19 PM
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Also, while I don't hate diesel, and I understand (better than most) that new diesel cars are pretty clean, I'm VERY thankful that most of our cars are gasoline. Because I've been to India. Where EVERY car is a diesel. Let's just say, it only took a day for my white shirt collar to become black.
For it to have taken that long you must have taken refuge indoors whenever possible.

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Old 06-23-2018, 02:25 AM
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For it to have taken that long you must have taken refuge indoors whenever possible.
Was indoors quite a lot, but no A/C, windows open. Actually, as I recall, that happened when I was in Akola - not a terribly large city. Wasn't wearing white shirt collars while in Hyderabad, which is much more densely populated.
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Old 06-26-2018, 09:13 PM
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But a 1984 Diesel "Cadillac" woul be a relaible car?
How was the "Mercedes"?
Cadillac Diesel piece of unreliable, underpowered junk. Oldsmobile Diesel engine. Mercedes Diesel engines good, reliable workhorses if maintained. Slow like all other non turbo Diesel engines though. Mercedes mechanics tend to be more likely to know how to fix one over say a Cadillac mechanic. Oldsmobile diesel also didn't have a water separator (a very bad piece of design engineering)
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:37 PM
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Ive owened a few diesels, includieng a 2002 VW and a 1980 Rabbit. the rabbit only had 48 hp orignally, and after nearly 500,000 miles the engine was very tired, had to disconnect the crankcase breather hose, it had so much blow by it would suck the oil into the intake, then the car would accelerate on its own, and leave a huge black cloud behind... Once the hose was disconnected, almost as much exhaust came out of the breather as the tailpipe. id love to find a Volvo diesel station wagon.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:32 AM
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1980s Volvo diesels were actually VW engines too. 6 cylinder version of the 4s used in the Rabbit / Golf and Jetta.
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