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Compared to that the 23EGP22, which had longevity issues from bad manufacturing, and weird phosphor colors that made accurate color hard to achieve, was basically successful in that the sets actually DID work from new and weren't recalled.... While the EGP wasn't the first rectangular tube to market and wasn't the best, one can argue it was successful compared to the 1958 CBS tube. Quote:
RCA and Zenith tubes tended to have good life and good performance. For RCA Hi-Lite was the newly built high quality label and Colorama was the lower tier rebuild stuff. I think I heard the screen grading went all the way to grade E and that most of those were test Jig CRTs.
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Bad news: 23EGP22 CRTs were absolute garbage along with most of the Motorola sets they went in. I know. I worked on a LOT of them. Many wound up in the dumpster. Not only did they not last long, (gassy & low emission) the 23" direct replacements were more than twice the price and the quality wasn't very reliable. Occasionally a good one slipped through QC. Sometimes we could shoe horn a 25" in its place.
The Motorola sets were plentiful where I lived. The retailer E J Korvette literally had a large wall of them always on. Flipper was on Saturday night and that large wall of blue ocean (it was impressive!) sold a lot of Motorolas. Good news: Those sets put a lot of bread on the table. |
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The rest of the set would be dead long before then.
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I have a 21FBP22 branded GE on the base and a 1962 date code. The EIA code is rubbed off, but the "font" of the date code looks more like something RCA used instead of GE, so I think the CRT is a rebranded RCA. I don't think Zenith was making color CRTs around that time, and my 27KC20Q has a 1962 RCA tube in it. Sylvania did make 21AXP22 tubes in the 1950s, and of course CBS/Hytron did as well, being they had quite a few patents in that arena. The vast majority were RCA, at least until the mid 1960s or so.
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So why is it that they say the red gun is very inefficient and seems to be the first gun to go in the 21fb j tubes. I would think that they have to put out even.
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I don't think that it's that the red gun is inefficient vs the others, it's more sort of the set it's in, how hard the guns are driven, and if you have a 21FJP22 vs a 21FJP22A / 21fbj22 21fbj22a that matters.
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What’s the difference between the 22 and 22a
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old_tv_nut could prob go into it in much more detail, but it has to do with the type of phosphor chemicals used, the purity of color they give off, and how hard they had to be driven.
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Which was the worst 22 or 22a
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From what I understand, the A, is the better version.
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Out of all the color sets I have had I never seen a 22a
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This has been discussed in various places on AK. The problem is not differences in the three guns but differences in the efficacy of the three phosphors. Red phosphors always had seriously less efficacy than green or blue until the rare-earth reds came along. This required the red gun to supply correspondingly higher current to get good color balance, hence the red gun would wear out first. When a rare earth tube was used to replace the tube in an older set, there was usually a service bulletin to change some resistor values in the video output so the three guns would be driven more equally.
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My RCA CTC-16XL has one, and so did the CTC-20, but not the CTC-15 or CTC-16. :/
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