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[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Carmine

"The only thing I don't care for is the electronic shifter. As far as I can tell, you must have the engine running to get it out of park. And, I noticed when I shut the engine off with the gearshift in neutral, the tranny went into park by itself. "

Talk to your government. Personally I don't like that style of e-shifter either, but NHTSA sets those kinds of "rules".

Do you follow the "Allpar" website?
They're planning a recall on that issue or something similar.

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

Do you follow the "Allpar" website?
They're planning a recall on that issue or something similar.

The rules about must shut off in park or foot on brake to shift, are NHTSA rules.

The "return-to-center" mechanism is a marketing thing... I believe Audi does the same (stupid) thing. Is that a defect? no. Has it caused problems? yes. That's what NHTSA is investigating. These findings could trigger another set of rules, but it's probably a moot point. Chrysler already dumped that shifter for a rotary dial which people seem to prefer (not me).

[Ed in Tx]

Originally Posted by Carmine

The rules about must shut off in park ... are NHTSA rules.

"Shut off in park"? You mean you can't put it in Park and let it idle?

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by Ed in Tx

"Shut off in park"? You mean you can't put it in Park and let it idle?

Sorry, should have phrased that as "shifts to park when shut off".

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Carmine

Sorry, should have phrased that as "shifts to park when shut off".

I think, most newer cars with automatic transmission do that. My Prius has a Park button and a Power button. If you push the power button before the park, it goes into park. You don't have to have the key in your hand, just in your pocket. You get really spoiled with these things.