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Old 10-04-2018, 06:51 PM
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1949 Philips tv

I came across this set, and can't seem to find much info on it. The ad claims it's a 1949 model DV1050. Philips. The Early Television Foundation does not show this particular model.
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Old 10-04-2018, 07:43 PM
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Kinda shaped like an Emerson. Others with much more information will probably know. Stand by...
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Old 10-05-2018, 07:28 AM
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It's Canadian. It doesn't look exactly like anything else from the time, and doesn't resemble the European Philips sets from that period either. Philips didn't sell TVs in the US during that time period, so this would have been a Canadian one-off. Curious!

TV broadcasts didn't start until about 1952 in Canada so I think the 1949 claim may be bogus.

ETA there's a guy on ARF who has a bunch of Canadian service data from this era, you might reach out to him.

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Old 10-05-2018, 09:09 AM
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The 25 Hz spec on the tag on the rear definitely points toward Canada. It will also have a huge power transformer due to the 25 Hz spec. The presence of a CSA registration and no UL rating point toward Canada
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:15 AM
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It's Canadian. It doesn't look exactly like anything else from the time, and doesn't resemble the European Philips sets from that period either. Philips didn't sell TVs in the US during that time period, so this would have been a Canadian one-off. Curious!

TV broadcasts didn't start until about 1952 in Canada so I think the 1949 claim may be bogus.

ETA there's a guy on ARF who has a bunch of Canadian service data from this era, you might reach out to him.
There were/are lots of Canadian cities/towns close enough to the US border that they can pick up stations from the states. There were plenty of Canadians that had TVs before their country had stations...There are also a number of 1954-1960 Canadian made color TVs that predate Canadian color casting for the same reason.
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:33 AM
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I watched "The Beverly Hillbillies" with a dubbed French soundtrack when visiting up by the border many years ago. Never saw anything funnier in my life!
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:36 AM
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I agree with e/m...I think that the set looks "earlier" than 1952 when TV broadcasting started in Canada. I believe 1949 is accurate. Wonder if it had a hot tuner and extra IF stages to aid dxing US stations.
Did Phillips have a radio factory in Canada prior to 1949?

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Old 10-06-2018, 06:47 AM
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While I agree the TV looks older than 1952, I have a hard time believing that Philips invested in designing, building a factory, building sets, and selling them in a market where the only signals were from across the border and there were no regulations in place.
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Old 10-06-2018, 10:49 AM
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If they were already selling radios all they would have had to do is come up with a TV chassis design and tell production to build it...Just like any other established radio maker post-WWII would.
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Old 10-06-2018, 12:10 PM
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I just found the ad for this TV on Kijiji which appears the be a Canadian version of Craig’s list. The set is in Cambridge, Ontario which isn’t too far from Niagra Falls where there was 25Hz power.

The set has a bright horizontal line so the HV works and the CRT isn’t completely dead
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Old 10-06-2018, 04:43 PM
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The set has a bright horizontal line so the HV works and the CRT isn’t completely dead
I hope they haven't left it running like that for long...



https://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronics/...ationFlag=true

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Old 10-06-2018, 08:07 PM
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Regarding the "line on the screen". I looked real close at the picture tube and there is no burn mark. Also, the seller told me he didn't have it on very long to test. Just a basic power up.
I'm beginning to think that Electrohome might have built this set. Either that or Westinghouse. They had a plant in Hamilton.
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:37 PM
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Philips bought Rogers Majestic and the Philips sets were also badged Rogers Majestic.

The first station received in Toronto was WBEN 4 now WIVB which began broadcasting in the fall of 1948. My parents in Toronto bought a Philips 17" set in 1951 prior to CBLT's start in September 1952.

I have the original service information for these sets in storage. Please be patient as I locate it. Otherwise I believe it is listed under Rogers Majestic in RCC 1 notes.

Incidentally I have a Montreal manufactured RCA Victor 8T243 from 1949. I believe it was the first set manufactured in Canada. The Philips set depicted I believe is from 1950.

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Old 10-06-2018, 09:54 PM
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I just found the ad for this TV on Kijiji which appears the be a Canadian version of Craig’s list. The set is in Cambridge, Ontario which isn’t too far from Niagra Falls where there was 25Hz power.

The set has a bright horizontal line so the HV works and the CRT isn’t completely dead
Southern Ontario including Toronto and Cambridge was 25Hz until 1958.
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:55 PM
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The 25 Hz spec on the tag on the rear definitely points toward Canada. It will also have a huge power transformer due to the 25 Hz spec. The presence of a CSA registration and no UL rating point toward Canada
I believe this was a hot chassis and did not employ a power transformer.
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