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Old 02-20-2018, 11:16 AM
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The guy that ran the place did the same thing, replacing tubes that didn't need replacing, etc.

I guess some things are timeless, just the objects change.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:30 AM
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I guess some things are timeless, just the objects change.

Exactly my thought when I saw that receipt . One bad tube and a missing dial pointer , sure . ALL the tubes in the set plus a couple other parts on top of that besides the dial pointer ? methinks the poor customer got , well , , Hosed .
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:11 PM
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The Plot Thickens !

So just for kicks I figured I'd inspect the radio the repair slip was found in . Come to find out , not only was the repair bill in there , so too were the tubes that had been replaced along with a capacitor that is presumably the one listed in the bill of repairs . The customer appears to have used masking tape to tape the old parts into the battery compartment . Problem is , there are NO "new" capacitors . I can find no evidence of soldering work on any of the capacitors that looks like it was done "after the fact" , ALL connections appear to be as built . I do see the 3Q4 appears gassy , but I intend to test the other three tubes paying special care to perform a through shorts test on all three .

PS , this customer hosing wasn't administered in Massachusetts , Massachusetts is just where the set ended up . The slip says "Danielson Conn." .....
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:18 PM
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Exactly my thought when I saw that receipt . One bad tube and a missing dial pointer , sure . ALL the tubes in the set plus a couple other parts on top of that besides the dial pointer ? methinks the poor customer got , well , , Hosed .
That radio is rather hard to get apart. How the dial pointer got lost or broken is any ones guess. Whether the tubes were replaced is another issue and that model doesn't use a 1U4. It is a sub, but not the proper tube.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:52 PM
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That radio is rather hard to get apart. How the dial pointer got lost or broken is any ones guess. Whether the tubes were replaced is another issue and that model doesn't use a 1U4. It is a sub, but not the proper tube.
Diesel , are you looking at the Monitor radio model M-510 ? Because the rider's shows it using a 1U4 for an IF amp , and this radio does indeed use a 1U4 in that position . I see that a 2.2meg is used as control grid bias for the 3Q4 and see a 1/4 watt in that position , but I still am looking for a 2.2 meg 2 watt in the schematic (In the pictures I posted in my last post you can see the 2.2 meg 2 wat that they installed , but there is only one 2.2 meg 1/4 watt listed on the schematic and it is present between the 3Q4's control grid and ground)

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Old 02-23-2018, 07:13 PM
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Diesel , are you looking at the Monitor radio model M-510 ? Because the rider's shows it using a 1U4 for an IF amp , and this radio does indeed use a 1U4 in that position . I see that a 2.2meg is used as control grid bias for the 3Q4 and see a 1/4 watt in that position , but I still am looking for a 2.2 meg 2 watt in the schematic .
I'm well aware that a 1U4 is used as an IF amplifier in many battery radios, but not this particular model. I failed to see a 2.2meg earlier, but naturally not a 2 watt resistor.
The radio I'm referring to is an RCA 66BX. It's kind of hard to read the writing on the invoice regarding the make.
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:18 PM
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I'm well aware that a 1U4 is used as an IF amplifier in many battery radios, but not this particular model. I failed to see a 2.2meg earlier, but naturally not a 2 watt resistor.
The radio I'm referring to is an RCA 66BX. It's kind of hard to read the writing on the invoice regarding the make.
There was nothing on the invoice referring to the model of the radio , so I'm curious as to where you got RCA 66BX as the model ? The radio in question is "Monitor radio model M-510" and I posted pictures of it back in post #15 . Anyway , I'm not having an easy time posting up the schematic for it , but it's on Nostalgia air if anyone wants to have a look .
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:22 PM
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I'm well aware that a 1U4 is used as an IF amplifier in many battery radios, but not this particular model. I failed to see a 2.2meg earlier, but naturally not a 2 watt resistor.
The radio I'm referring to is an RCA 66BX. It's kind of hard to read the writing on the invoice regarding the make.
I didn't see your entry about the Monitor. Then, I looked at the invoice and it does say Monitor.
Spending that kind of money on the el-cheapo make was insane.
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:19 AM
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I didn't see your entry about the Monitor. Then, I looked at the invoice and it does say Monitor.
Spending that kind of money on the el-cheapo make was insane.

The shop never filled in the make or model info , the "model no." line having been left blank . In the "complaint" line was written "monitor portable radio" so I can see where it would be easy to mistake actually which model radio was being serviced . And yes , that was a crazy amount to spend on such a cheaply made set .

Hopefully sometime today I'll get the time to test the tubes that were replaced and taped into the battery compartment to see just how may of them are "shorted" . I suspect that outside of the gassy 3Q4 they'll all test fine (The tubes the shop installed are all still working , the radio receives WBZ AM 1030 fine) .
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