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Old 09-06-2013, 04:11 PM
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ATSC 3.0 - Oh boy

I guess I won't need to worry about how long my flat panel lasts...


http://www.c2meworld.com/distributio...-3-0-advances/

"The most differentiating characteristic of ATSC 3.0 is that it will not be backward-compatible with 1.0 or even 2.0, which is now in development. In other words, televisions now capable of processing over-the-air TV signals will not be able to decode ATSC 3.0 signals. "
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:33 PM
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I doubt there will be converter boxes available to go from atsc 3 back to atsc 2, or 1. And I guarantee there will not be one to go back to ntsc. I think the only reason they did it for the ntsc this time around was that there were sets from the 50's theoretically still in use.... I guess tv's will go the way of cell phones, every few years they will come up with something else.... The only good thing I see in that story is the distributed transmission thing... But I would imagine if they can't get people to pay for it, and general tv viewership continues to decline, both adoption, a partially implemented distributed transmission scheme will mean the end of OTA tv of any kind, and it will further splinter into today's broadcast channels, cable channels, and internet providers like netflix and their tv shows. I think this system will take quite a while to sell to broadcasters, I don't think it will fly with the public all that well, and more people will just give up tv.

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Old 09-06-2013, 05:56 PM
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Betcha dollars to donuts that a 3.0 set won't even power up without a persistent internet connection back to the tracking/ad insertion server.

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Old 09-06-2013, 07:01 PM
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Betcha dollars to donuts that a 3.0 set won't even power up without a persistent internet connection back to the tracking/ad insertion server.

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Or it won't do anything if you don't have a active contract on it.... like a cell phone.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:07 PM
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I doubt there will be converter boxes available to go from atsc 3 back to atsc 2, or 1. And I guarantee there will not be one to go back to ntsc.
Why? I suspect that the early ATSC 3 sets will be quite expensive and in short supply. Therefore, there *will* be a demand for converter boxes... If a consumer demand exists, there will be a product to meet the demand.

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Old 09-24-2013, 08:22 PM
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I doubt there will be converter boxes available to go from atsc 3 back to atsc 2, or 1. And I guarantee there will not be one to go back to ntsc. I think the only reason they did it for the ntsc this time around was that there were sets from the 50's theoretically still in use.... I guess tv's will go the way of cell phones, every few years they will come up with something else.... The only good thing I see in that story is the distributed transmission thing... But I would imagine if they can't get people to pay for it, and general tv viewership continues to decline, both adoption, a partially implemented distributed transmission scheme will mean the end of OTA tv of any kind, and it will further splinter into today's broadcast channels, cable channels, and internet providers like netflix and their tv shows. I think this system will take quite a while to sell to broadcasters, I don't think it will fly with the public all that well, and more people will just give up tv.

Thanks for posting the story.
Well, you can feed the ATSC 3.0 convertor to an ATSC 1.0 set-top box and then to your NTSC TV. I know it's convoluted, but it should work, at least in theory. Sometimes I think we need to slow all this stuff down until we catch up. :p
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Technology as a whole is really starting to depress me. I was so busy lamenting over the loss of CRT TVs in stores that I nearly didn't realize that rear projectors (Even DLP!!!) are now gone from the shelves, too! Cell phones being replaced every year, TVs failing after three years, and now this...I wish it would all just SLOW DOWN.
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Technology as a whole is really starting to depress me. I was so busy lamenting over the loss of CRT TVs in stores that I nearly didn't realize that rear projectors (Even DLP!!!) are now gone from the shelves, too! Cell phones being replaced every year, TVs failing after three years, and now this...I wish it would all just SLOW DOWN.
Yeah, me too. There are times I wish we'd put more money into things like cancer research instead of ATSC 3.0, but I'm getting close to that line we should never cross. I guess I'm just blowing off steam, I lost my mother to cancer last week.

Back on topic, I don't care if I see a program in 405 line British or ASTC Hi-Def telelvisiomn, the content and story are the most important to me.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:04 PM
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And the money grab goes on...
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:10 PM
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Active connection? Contract? I don't think so!!! Looks like I'll go back to reading books
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:34 AM
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The little independent stations here have fallen to companies like OTA, who will likely migrate the spectrum they occupy toward wireless data like CDMA 450 or whatever replaces it.

TV is living on borrowed time. I'm starting to think about a world run by a "Raymond Cockteau" from Demolition Man and a screen telling me to "Be Well". Just about time to go get a broccoli banana shake and sing "I wanna be an Oscar Meyer weiner".
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:33 AM
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Sounds like it's time to start from scratch and band together to start our own ANALOG OTA and cable networks. Stick it to the suit dummies.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:40 AM
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Time to expand my OTA DVD and VHS recordings of the good stuff available on This TV and Antenna TV while it lasts..... I really thought this system was not going to be changed for quite a while if ever in the rest of my lifetime.....
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