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Old 08-31-2019, 07:55 PM
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Self-destructing HV rectifier tube

Got a 1968 Magnavox color the other day. I noticed it had no hv, so I opened up the hv cage and saw the rectifier tube was in half. I replaced it and hv came up with no issues. My question is, how does this happen? Perhaps some major arcing inside the tube? Maybe a factory defect? What is your thinking? BTW, the tube is a 3CU3.
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Old 08-31-2019, 08:51 PM
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30 years ago..." Damn it the picture went out in the first inning...well let's just crank the volume to drown out that arcing noise and listen to the rest"... People do goofy stuff sometimes.
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:32 PM
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I mean... the glass could've had a defect and it simply popped during use. Even a microscopic fracture could shatter the glass when it started to warm up.
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Old 09-01-2019, 12:49 AM
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That was some nice internal damage! That thing is cooked! I'd say it ran while cooking away. I lf the set is running and flyback looks ok and not overheating then you're good to go. How is the wax drippage? You said "Magnavox", so I just have to ask?
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:01 AM
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Dodged the bullet on that one. One reason you should never, ever leave a vintage TV running unattended, even for a minute. 'Specially color.
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Old 09-01-2019, 11:47 AM
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That 3CU3 is the first HV rectifier tube I have ever seen with damage like yours had. When you said the tube was "in half", I immediately looked at the attachment and, sure enough, saw the tube's glass envelope literally broken in half. I wonder what caused that type of damage, although my best guess is the tube was severely overloaded somehow. Whatever it was, the overload must have been severe enough, and then some, to cause the tube to come close to exploding. In fact, I am surprised the tube's envelope did not shatter, rather than splitting in two as it did.

It could also be, as MadMan said in his post, that the tube had a manufacturing defect and just broke open. If the TV now works as normal, with normal HV, I wouldn't give it a second thought.

BTW, 1968 was about the time everyone was beginning to worry about X-rays from color televisions. I mention this because of the warning on the base of the broken 3CU3 regarding the possibility of the tube emitting high, even harmful levels of X-rays if the tube was not properly shielded. This problem was addressed and apparently corrected, however, by about the mid-'70s (my best estimate), which should have set the collective public's minds at ease. Of course, this (X-ray radiation) cannot occur with today's flat screen televisions since there are no tubes in these sets, and the voltages found in such TVs are nowhere near the kilovolt range.

Also, I can now understand why, in the late '60s-'70s during the X-ray scare, parents often told their children not to sit too close to the TV screen since, as I said above, there was a potential X-ray hazard with color sets of that era. Even today, with flat screens, kids are being warned not to sit too close to the set because of the possibility (even the likelihood) of eyestrain.
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Old 09-01-2019, 12:29 PM
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30 years ago..." Damn it the picture went out in the first inning...well let's just crank the volume to drown out that arcing noise and listen to the rest"... People do goofy stuff sometimes.
Several years ago, I had a similar repair call. Their spoiled little brat kid wanted attention, so he shut the set off while the parents were watching a program. It was getting toward the end so the adults turned the set back on and the 3A3 shorted out because of the surge. They sat there just listening the sound, until the breaker tripped. They kept on resetting it until the end.
The horiz out really must've been red-plating and it sucked in the side of the tube and cracked it. They were lucky it didn't take out the flyback.
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Several years ago,
How many is several?

It would be interesting if this was within the last 10 years!
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Old 09-03-2019, 06:03 PM
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How many is several?

It would be interesting if this was within the last 10 years!
Probably in the mid to late '70s. I quit repairing TV's in the mid 80's.
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