Bought my second car this week!

[WISCOJIM]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

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I hope, our man MR. Carlson isn't PO'ed at me! I always like meeting with him and his Father at the WARCI meets.

Dave, don't worry, it's nothing to do with you. And I also enjoy talking with both of his parents.

Tom's alive and well, I talked to him and his buddy Chris yesterday at the Illinois Radiofest.

He apparently was naughty (again) here on the forum, and he clearly understands that the boss was forced to give him an appropriate "time out".

His advice on the forum here was very valuable to a lot of members. I suspect he'll be back before too long. Tom just has to learn to avoid arguments on here, especially those that don't involve him directly. He's young, he'll learn from this, he'll come back better than ever.

I, for one, am looking forward to his return.

BTW, Tom just picked up a Chevy Suburban. I hope he has better luck with this one.

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[Sandy G]

I have never ENTIRELY understood why the car companies have, at best, a LOATHING for their customers as evidenced by most of this posts in this episode. It goes way beyond using dealers for any/all repair, & getting "Jacked Up" by them. It would seem to me that at least ONE way a company could get & KEEP customers would make the repairs straight forward & reasonably simple.

[lnx64]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

I have never ENTIRELY understood why the car companies have, at best, a LOATHING for their customers as evidenced by most of this posts in this episode. It goes way beyond using dealers for any/all repair, & getting "Jacked Up" by them. It would seem to me that at least ONE way a company could get & KEEP customers would make the repairs straight forward & reasonably simple.

I can't even get Chevrolet to fix my 94 Caprice's recalls. I've had to fix most of them by myself, because they claim "they don't fix them after a certain amount of years", which as my understanding is, that's not true, the government requires them to fix it no matter how old.

But this is Chevrolet.

[KentTeffeteller]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

I have never ENTIRELY understood why the car companies have, at best, a LOATHING for their customers as evidenced by most of this posts in this episode. It goes way beyond using dealers for any/all repair, & getting "Jacked Up" by them. It would seem to me that at least ONE way a company could get & KEEP customers would make the repairs straight forward & reasonably simple.

What you and I wish, and what they think of is different. What is an annoyance to Mr Biped, is much more to an adapted vehicle owner who must use hand controls and adaptive equipment. And increase the rent to 10X or more over normal for us.

[Electronic M]

I've got a burban alright.

Still have the Envoy....It is kinda odd to realize you own more cars at once than your parents have in all the years you've lived...

The Envoy is gonna go soon...It's on CL.

If you want a good laugh how about a quote from me and a friends first draft of the ad (we were hoping for best of CL status).

Sad lonely 2002 GMC Envoy looking for home. Gently used and expertly serviced by kindergardeners. Runs and dives by some miracle/ fluke of physics. Plenty of power to knock down trees and pull stumps (as has been successfully tried). mostly complete. needs minor body work and service. AC blows cold. makes fun noises. Cassette and CD (sorry no 8-track, and biber's CD stuck in player on auto repeat, have pulled radio fuse did not help). I'm not handicapped, but the previous owners were, mentally. air ride suspension. tires slightly tired. faster than a speeding dodge neon. Anything you find in the car including is yours to keep....Ladies. Seats have great lumber support. With this Envoy you will be the envy or your neighbors. Act now before I park it in lake Pewaukee!

That joke draft was not posted, but we had a great laugh writing it.

[KentTeffeteller]

Originally Posted by Electronic M

I've got a burban alright.

Still have the Envoy....It is kinda odd to realize you own more cars at once than your parents have in all the years you've lived...

The Envoy is gonna go soon...It's on CL.

If you want a good laugh how about a quote from me and a friends first draft of the ad (we were hoping for best of CL status).



That joke draft was not posted, but we had a great laugh writing it.

Reading that made my back hurt reading it. An honest CL ad for once.

[Electronic M]

Caribou Gone!--->https://youtu.be/M3-51DhOzHE?t=2m21s

Good riddance.

[Electronic M]

So glad that red albatross is gone! I lost my shirt selling it, and the new owner who plans to fix it and flip (said he does a lot of that) it is going to have fun...

My Burban has been a good winter driver, new tires, new drivers side wheel bearing (to fix ABS light), steering knuckle (bearing was rust fused to the knuckle badly enough to make it NECESSARY to replace both), and the CV axle (a casualty of the bearing work), front and rear brakes too. AC held a charge for a couple of days in the fall. The heated seats are awesome!...It even sold the folks on wanting heated seats in their next car.

[Electronic M]

It wasn't like the envoy was ridiculously hard to service or impractical to service. The problem was that the previous owners beat it to hell had it serviced by hacks who should not have been allowed to so much as look at a car, they weren't honest with me about it, and inadequate lighting made it hard for me to see that when I bought it... That SUV had too much wrong with it to be worth my fixing especially after that swaybar linkage caused me to spin it... My general opinion of the Envoy platform is favorable, and I feel that if I had bought a better example to start with that I'd still be driving it.

Repairability depends on the platform. I've heard people I trust talk plentyof trash about serviceability and reliability of GM cars that I have not owned, and my family has owned and rented some GM lemons, but the Envoy struck me as a decent platform reliability and design-wise.
The suburban I replaced it with strikes me as an even better vehicle reliability and repairability wise...I know people with suburbans of the same generation with 2 and 3 times the mileage mine has that are still going strong with no drivetrain rebuilds needed (rust is starting to affect those though). Also, they made some jobs MUCH easier on the suburban...The CV axles in the front, for instance, don't use those wacky snap rings that the Envoy has...Instead, they attach to the front differential with only 6 bolts...IMHO a much more serviceable design. The Suburban also seems to have more room to access things in the engine compartment.

My family and I took my Suburban up to our cabin up north last week and at the beginning of the month I took it to the ETF...Between those two trips, I've put 2K of highway (with heavy cargo) on it easy this month and it has been handling it like a trooper. Heck, I got the AC to hold a usable charge for the whole week, and the AC is the only common weak point on these trucks (the plumbing likes to develop leaks every 100k).