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Old 05-20-2016, 03:24 PM
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:51 PM
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yes tim,i am that old.feb 14th 1948.started selling newspapers door to door in columbus ohio.you met me on a fairly good day.thanks for compliment but i am an old man.never drank,smoked,drugs,etc.always worked at least 2 jobs and was a single dad with 4 children.never had time to get old.now,on topic,if i needed a 21axp22,it would depend on the set and how bad i really wanted to get it going.i would think for a nib,1000-1200.00 wouldnt be out of line.i know where there are 3 crts and that is about what he wants for one.had a shot at one about 10 years ago for 250.00 but passed on it.i informed another collector and he got it and a few other things.
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:58 AM
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I'm really not having a pedantic public discussion about why I do the things I do with a moderator, PM me so we can stop contaminating this thread which has now gone completely off the rails.
When I read the O.P.s request, I thought, where is this thing going!
Accually, It turned rather interesting, even though the original request is "Pie-in-the Sky", due to the nature of the beast.
At least, the 21" models, the restorer has the option of using a glass roundie. Granted, it's not original and not generally accepted, but better than using the set as a static display.
The CT100 owners, aren't as fortunate.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:03 PM
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Are 21AXP22 CRTs prone to the same leakage problem that plagues 15GP22s?
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:06 PM
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Are 21AXP22 CRTs prone to the same leakage problem that plagues 15GP22s?
I would say they leak more than a standard glass 21" but far less than a 15G.

Composite tubes always have a higher leakage rate than all glass, there's just a lot more places it can leak.
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:18 AM
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:13 PM
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Nick,

Owned several CTC-5 Super chassis sets over the years. I think they get a bad wrap. When properly set up they produce fine color images. I've also owned several CTC-5 Deluxe series sets. Takes a discerning eye to tell the difference.
The higher quality cabinets of the Deluxe series is another story.

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What he said about the super chassis. Mine looks better than my CTC-7...
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:49 PM
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Old 05-29-2016, 01:27 PM
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Yeah, while I'm at it, put me down for one or more too!!!

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Old 05-29-2016, 07:20 PM
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Old 05-30-2016, 01:24 PM
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21axp22

Actually I don't need one. I was only being like "well join the club" as I'm sure everybody wants one too. He wants one that is 100% new, not rebuilt. I wonder if any such exists as all the new ones were used in the production of new TV's. Normally rebuilt ones were used for replacements as if your CRT would fail under warranty, a rebuilt CRT was usually used for replacement under in the terms in the warranty. **Read the warranty for such replacement under RCA's options** After CTC5's ceased production, new CRT's ceased production fairly soon after but there were plenty of spares and duds out there to keep up with the demand. Also RCA recommended using 21FB's for replacement of the 21AX's and I have seen plenty of evidence of that in the past. At the last Early Television Foundation pow wow, Steve auctioned off a "NOS" 21FB that was a factory rebuilt.

I do have a "NOS" 21FJP22 factory sealed RCA tube and on the box it says that it is a tube "prior to reuse, it was carefully inspected and the gun assembly is new." The tubes that failed under warranty were all sent back and rebuilt that were good candidates for rebuilding. Actually a rebuilt tube went through the same process as a new one and should be a better tube but I am sure that is a toss up.

Actually, in my opinion the CTC5 (for the time) was a pretty reliable set, gave fewer problems than the next few generations of color sets and when properly set up made very nice color. You seldom ever replaced a flyback in one and didn't burn up horiz output tubes like the next four generations of the vertically placed chassis sets when the coupling cap supplying the drive would fail which was a common problem.
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Old 05-30-2016, 03:28 PM
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As Julian pointed out, my RCA CTC-5 has a 21FB/21GU replacement tube. This required the RCA mounting kit for installation of a glass tube replacing the 21AX metal tube.

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Old 05-31-2016, 09:19 AM
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As Julian pointed out, my RCA CTC-5 has a 21FB/21GU replacement tube. This required the RCA mounting kit for installation of a glass tube replacing the 21AX metal tube.

-Steve D.
Now I remember what the conversion kit looks like.
Evidently, the CRT was replaced when the set was under RCA Service Company contract. Small white tag next to the CRT label.
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:30 AM
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Actually I don't need one. I was only being like "well join the club" as I'm sure everybody wants one too. He wants one that is 100% new, not rebuilt. I wonder if any such exists as all the new ones were used in the production of new TV's. Normally rebuilt ones were used for replacements as if your CRT would fail under warranty, a rebuilt CRT was usually used for replacement under in the terms in the warranty. **Read the warranty for such replacement under RCA's options** After CTC5's ceased production, new CRT's ceased production fairly soon after but there were plenty of spares and duds out there to keep up with the demand. Also RCA recommended using 21FB's for replacement of the 21AX's and I have seen plenty of evidence of that in the past. At the last Early Television Foundation pow wow, Steve auctioned off a "NOS" 21FB that was a factory rebuilt.

I do have a "NOS" 21FJP22 factory sealed RCA tube and on the box it says that it is a tube "prior to reuse, it was carefully inspected and the gun assembly is new." The tubes that failed under warranty were all sent back and rebuilt that were good candidates for rebuilding. Actually a rebuilt tube went through the same process as a new one and should be a better tube but I am sure that is a toss up.

Actually, in my opinion the CTC5 (for the time) was a pretty reliable set, gave fewer problems than the next few generations of color sets and when properly set up made very nice color. You seldom ever replaced a flyback in one and didn't burn up horiz output tubes like the next four generations of the vertically placed chassis sets when the coupling cap supplying the drive would fail which was a common problem.
When I was doing TV repair, I always installed the RCA, Sylvania and Channel Master rebuilts, as they were rebuilt in the same factories as the new CRTs. A lot less in-warranty failures.
The local rebuilts were used in some sets for resale that didn't bring top-dollar, Silvertone, Muntz etc.
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