Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > International Vintage Televisions

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-07-2021, 05:47 PM
Telecolor 3007's Avatar
Telecolor 3007 Telecolor 3007 is offline
I love old stuff
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 2,082
Manufacturing C.R.T.'s... "Philips"-"Mullard" way

Well, I did stumbled on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32yYfTVIzBE
"Mullard" was owned by "Philips" since the '30's and they probably invested in creatinf the C.R.T. plant, but crafstpeople where still need then (and I think lately in the C.R.T. era). The production seems to be as far as automated as the times permited.
One thing that I noticed is that they are rectangular C.R.T.'s, not round ones. Did "Philips" was one of the 1st to introduce in mass production such tubes, because as far as I known some U.S.A. tv sets had still round (conic) C.R.T.'s in 1950-1952
__________________
OLD, but ORIGINAL, not Made in CHINA.
Sailor Moon
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-09-2021, 09:05 AM
nasadowsk's Avatar
nasadowsk nasadowsk is offline
Damn does run fast…
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Catawissa, PA
Posts: 948
My understanding is CRTs went rectangular in the US pretty much around ‘50 or so for many makes (RCA sure was offering it in ‘51, in those goofy 17 in rectangular metal tubes. ). Color, of course, was round into the 1960’s.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-12-2021, 05:10 AM
TV-collector's Avatar
TV-collector TV-collector is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Düsseldorf / Germany
Posts: 236
AGREE!
An american TV repairman I visited in PA said, that color roundies were made up to 1965.
Regards
SIXMILLION DOLLARMAN
__________________
Scotty, beam me up, there is no more 4/3 Television and AM radio in Germany!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-12-2021, 07:16 PM
Electronic M's Avatar
Electronic M Electronic M is offline
M is for Memory
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pewaukee/Delafield Wi
Posts: 14,806
Quote:
Originally Posted by TV-collector View Post
AGREE!
An american TV repairman I visited in PA said, that color roundies were made up to 1965.
Regards
SIXMILLION DOLLARMAN
That repair man didn't have the full story. We did introduce rectangular color in 1965 and it was basically dominant within a year, but it is documented and backed up by surviving sets that roundys remained in production until atleast 1968 as bargain sets (Philco that year offered a metal cabinet roundy that was the cheapest color picture per inch) others here have found ads for Muntz roundys from 1973.
__________________
Tom C.

Zenith: The quality stays in EVEN after the name falls off!
What I want. --> http://www.videokarma.org/showpost.p...62&postcount=4
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-13-2021, 01:03 AM
Telecolor 3007's Avatar
Telecolor 3007 Telecolor 3007 is offline
I love old stuff
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Posts: 2,082
But why so late colour roundies?
__________________
OLD, but ORIGINAL, not Made in CHINA.
Sailor Moon
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 07-13-2021, 01:13 AM
ppppenguin's Avatar
ppppenguin ppppenguin is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
Posts: 451
In UK/Europe all colour CRTs in TVs sold to customers were rectangular. Round colour CRTs were only used in experimental and prototpe sets. Most likely imported from USA.

Not sure when last round B&W tube was used in the UK. They were certainly used in 1953 and were obsolete by 1956. Smaller numbers would have been made for maintanence after that, though that may well have been by rebuilding old CRTs.
__________________
www.borinsky.co.uk Jeffrey Borinsky www.becg.tv
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-13-2021, 04:28 AM
Mr Hoover's Avatar
Mr Hoover Mr Hoover is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by ppppenguin View Post

Not sure when last round B&W tube was used in the UK. They were certainly used in 1953 and were obsolete by 1956
Probably the 9 inch Ekco TMB 272 is a good contender for the last from 1955-56
It was a mains/hefty battery "portable."

Last edited by Mr Hoover; 07-13-2021 at 04:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-13-2021, 10:50 AM
old_tv_nut's Avatar
old_tv_nut old_tv_nut is offline
See yourself on Color TV!
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Rancho Sahuarita
Posts: 7,207
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007 View Post
But why so late colour roundies?
The factories still existed, demand for color had increased, there was a shortage of CRTs for the color TV sales rates, round tubes were cheaper than rectangular.

One year (maybe 1967? - have to check) RCA ran a color TV ad earlier in the year with top spots on the page for round sets and secondary places for rectangular; then later in the year ran exactly the same artwork except the positions of the round and rectangular sets were interchanged.
__________________
www.bretl.com
Old TV literature, New York World's Fair, and other miscellany
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-14-2021, 12:38 AM
ppppenguin's Avatar
ppppenguin ppppenguin is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
Posts: 451
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Hoover View Post
Probably the 9 inch Ekco TMB 272 is a good contender for the last from 1955-56
It was a mains/hefty battery "portable."
I think you're right. A unique problem with a unique solution that was most easily solved with an older CRT.
__________________
www.borinsky.co.uk Jeffrey Borinsky www.becg.tv
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-14-2021, 07:46 PM
Electronic M's Avatar
Electronic M Electronic M is offline
M is for Memory
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pewaukee/Delafield Wi
Posts: 14,806
[QUOTE=old_tv_nut;3235130]The factories still existed, demand for color had increased, there was a shortage of CRTs for the color TV sales rates, round tubes were cheaper than rectangular.

One year (maybe 1967? - have to check) RCA ran a color TV ad earlier in the year with top spots on the page for round sets and secondary places for rectangular; then later in the year ran exactly the same artwork except the positions of the round and rectangular sets were interchanged.[/QUOTEuse In IIRC 1967 demand for color TVs was so high even relative to manufacturer expectations that there was a color CRT shortage... Major brands that didn't make their own CRTs would switch suppliers from week to week, depending on who had inventory to sell them, in order to keep up with orders.

Some makers like RCA tried to phase out roundys as fast as they could...Their last roundy the CTC-20 was a CTC19 rectangular chassis modified to drive a round CRT so they could use up left over CTC16 masks, cabinets and CRTs.
__________________
Tom C.

Zenith: The quality stays in EVEN after the name falls off!
What I want. --> http://www.videokarma.org/showpost.p...62&postcount=4
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:21 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.