Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Rectangular Screen Tube Televisions

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-03-2023, 09:30 AM
Alex KL-1 Alex KL-1 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Brazil (Paranį)
Posts: 230
Particular CRT spot size

Hello folks of Videokarma,

Some time ago I got a strange old Matsushita RF equipment that has a 9" CRT.
Literally in NIB/NOS condition! No use! Zero dirt inside!
Since I already assembled a TV in the past, I thinking in use the CRT/yoke for making a little B&W TV or monitor with tubes where applicable (not in the H part, due do too low yoke inductance).
I tested it using it's own HV supply, and a spare chassis from a Sony TV-700U for feeding horizontal, vertical and video.
But, at testing, I discovered that the spot size varies too much, completely losing definition with bright image, blooming a lot, and bright and contrast are very poor (reminds a worn CRT). The auxiliary voltages in this flyback don't change (in fact, is stabilized).
In fact, the original equipment uses a variation of vector mode (x-y display), and is scanned only one line at maximum 20Hz (is easy to achieve bright this manner, like in a TV with inoperative vertical).

I don't have a HV proble yet, so I only wonder if this CRT is feed with too low HV, or is a CRT not optimized for TV using?
I had some hope, since some guys use oscilloscope CRT for making electrostatic deflected sets.

So, what is going on?

The CRT code is 23BLB4 (impossible to got info in the Net).
__________________
So many projects, so little time...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-03-2023, 12:22 PM
old_tv_nut's Avatar
old_tv_nut old_tv_nut is offline
See yourself on Color TV!
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Rancho Sahuarita
Posts: 7,220
The electron guns in oscilloscope CRTs are definitely not optimized for video use. Typically, they have a halo around the main spot that greatly reduces picture contrast when used as a scanned display. I think just about everyone who has worked in a TV receiver design lab has seen someone try this trick just to see how it works, with the same result.
__________________
www.bretl.com
Old TV literature, New York World's Fair, and other miscellany
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-03-2023, 01:44 PM
Alex KL-1 Alex KL-1 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Brazil (Paranį)
Posts: 230
This confirms my suspicion...

Apparently, I was misled by the tube shape of this equipment, which made me assume it was just a cheap B&W TV tube being used by the maker for this equipment model (since is a tube for magnetic deflection). My testing showed me is not the case; and really have a lot of halo in the lines/bright zones as you described, acting more like a oscilloscope CRT.

Ohhh, my project was cancelled...
__________________
So many projects, so little time...
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:57 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.