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Old 01-14-2015, 08:42 PM
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A few observations and questions...and thanks for the input from all with a few photos added tonight to hopefully help me figure this out.

Jr...The first is that the LCD shutters are variable in chroma density on this set depending on the user menu chroma setting. Not fixed color filters like a DLP or a Col-R-Tel. When I got this and the manual, I found the RGB shutter gains...on the side of the body...and did a by-eye setup to BW with the chroma down. It is as close as it gets to BW by my aging eyes. The camera white balance is a bit off. BW here. The shutters look clear at this point and it shows the finest scan lines I have ever seen. I can shine a flashlight through the front and easily see the CRT. 100% transmission to me in BW. The addition of color will change that to the users degree of chroma gain.

I added a "blue check" menu button photo from the front button selection. "Blue check" is an old, cheap way to set bars on a color monitor without a scope. This should also represent a frame/field of the blue processing and does show the luminance values in the blue space for it's moment in RGB color. R and G should be the same and sequentially add to balanced color in the scan at that moment. And your persistence of vision kicks in at this point.

etype...you mention two filters and the block shows one eprom going to two buffers before the LCD shutter. Is this not RGB or am I missing something? The video buffer shows two dram. Is this some kind of color +/- thing going on? Help me with the two shutter concept.

And help me more with the scan/field rate. I think I am close but a blow-by-blow of a frame in RGB/LCD processing would help.

Gotta go now so I can watch the 1960 Peter Pan in JVC field-sequential color. I am seeing colors I have never seen before.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:53 AM
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Hi to All,

For those who have not downloaded/watched the JVC's advertising brochure, here are zoomed shots showing the LCD color shutter system.

Note the use of the term LCCS in the 3rd slide, therefore implying direct parenthood with the Tektronix color oscilloscope technology.

As for the switching speed, my opinion is that it is always 3x the incoming signal frequency, therefore 3x60 in NTSC, 3x50 in PAL.
Being a digital design, no problem there.

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Old 01-25-2015, 04:33 PM
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Jr...The first is that the LCD shutters are variable in chroma density on this set depending on the user menu chroma setting. Not fixed color filters like a DLP or a Col-R-Tel. When I got this and the manual, I found the RGB shutter gains...on the side of the body...and did a by-eye setup to BW with the chroma down.
So when you adjust "shutter gains" does the waveform/duty cycle to the liquid crystal cells change, or does the brightness/contrast of the CRT in each color field change?

Who is going to be the first to cut one apart so we can figure out how the JVC color sutter works?
Some questions:

1. 2 or 3 liquid crystal cells in the assembly?
2. RGB or MYC colored filters/cells?
3. External polarized color filters on the liquid crystal cells, or some sort of "colored magic liquid crystal goo" fill in the cells?

jr
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:00 AM
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So when you adjust "shutter gains" does the waveform/duty cycle to the liquid crystal cells change, or does the brightness/contrast of the CRT in each color field change?

Who is going to be the first to cut one apart so we can figure out how the JVC color sutter works?
Some questions:

1. 2 or 3 liquid crystal cells in the assembly?
2. RGB or MYC colored filters/cells?
3. External polarized color filters on the liquid crystal cells, or some sort of "colored magic liquid crystal goo" fill in the cells?

jr

Question 1. 3
Question 2. External based on the below comment, however JVC says there are two? polarizers and two shutters? Uncertain here.

From JVC press release: "single electron gun aimed through red light, green light and blue light filters, each separated by a liquid crystal shutter."

Jerome's illustrations were from a JVC brochure.

If you read through the Hughes/JVC Patent, it talks about your other question. It appears that JVC made some enhancements by adding a second polarizer.
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