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Old 10-02-2015, 05:08 PM
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I got some temporary belts off of a couple of walkman tape players and installed those and even with those installed it still won't work right so apparently the lack of belts aren't the only thing causing the problems with this thing...

Where can a guy get a decent copy of the service manual for this VCR without having to pay for it? I would like to try and locate the service manual for this VCR so I can find the exact size of the belts I need for this thing because that website you told me about that had the belts there only shows sizes of the belts it doesn't go by make and model of the VCR.
I have one in multipage TIFF format (how Hitachi provided manuals for their legacy stuff). It has no troubleshooting section - that would be in the service seminar manual, something I don't have. The manual is dated August 1980 and has a supplement for some changed Syscon boards.

The website I shared does have your VCR listed - you have to look it up.....in the cross reference, a PDF manual on the website as I mentioned. Page 173....
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Old 10-02-2015, 06:33 PM
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I have one in multipage TIFF format (how Hitachi provided manuals for their legacy stuff). It has no troubleshooting section - that would be in the service seminar manual, something I don't have. The manual is dated August 1980 and has a supplement for some changed Syscon boards.

The website I shared does have your VCR listed - you have to look it up.....in the cross reference, a PDF manual on the website as I mentioned. Page 173....
Oh, Ok I think I had just downloaded the parts catalog which is probably why it wasn't very helpful (the parts catalog was the same size as the cross-reference guide that you listed which is what kind of threw me for a loop).
Anyways so there's only 2 main belts that drive this entire VCR Mechanism, wow that's amazing, allthough that doesn't explain the third belt and motor drive mechanism I saw in the back of the VCR between the chroma board and the tape drive mechanism. What would of that been for? The belt on it is in perfect shape yet but it doesn't seem to have a purpose (it doesn't seem to work with the tape drive mechanism in any way when its rotated by hand).
So how could they get a 2-head VCR to perform some of the same functions as a 4-Head VCR back then? Did they even have 4-Head VCRs back then when this VCR was made?

EDIT: I looked up the cross-reference chart you were referring to and looked up the belts I needed and the only belt I could find in their parts catalog was the SCY6.0, but the SQX4.6 couldn't be found, was there maybe a typo in the cross-reference chart and maybe they meant SCY4.6?

OK, I didn't realize you actually had to call this company to make an order, I think I would rather see if there's another place to get my parts from because I'm not too keen on using my credit card over the phone seeing as I don't know who I'm dealing with and for all I know they could steal my credit card info.

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Old 10-02-2015, 07:57 PM
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OK, I didn't realize you actually had to call this company to make an order, I think I would rather see if there's another place to get my parts from because I'm not too keen on using my credit card over the phone seeing as I don't know who I'm dealing with and for all I know they could steal my credit card info.
Someone here in the forum may have the belts - a lot of us have belts from our own repairs - I have several hundred, along with a bunch of idler tires and pinch rollers - mine came from a place I used to work at, but I don't have your belts. Your Hitachi is the same as a GE 1VCR1012W - made for GE by Hitachi. I have a Video cross-ref for parts that lists that model...

Search using Google - you'll find dealers that list the belt(s) and allow you to place an online order. Just ensure you have an https connection first...

Credit card fraud (was) more likely with "card present" transactions than over the phone or internet - fraudsters with a card could 100% clone a card and CVV, and charge up thousands before you even left the store. Now, with the chip cards, it's still easy to clone the magnetic strip, but in a year or so, all card readers will be chip-only, and eliminate the magnetic strip. In 2011, my parents used one of their cards in West Texas, while traveling, and it was cloned in the restaurant and maxed out the same night. Visa fraud detection called them and verified their only use at the restaurant - that had some previous fraud/cloning detected there. A year later, Dateline NBC featured the restaurant in a sting pulled off by an FBI task force - 11 people arrested, restaurant seized, and several hundred cloned cards recovered - but only after $16.5 million was transferred to Ukraine.

I remember chip credit cards and phone cards in Europe in the mid-90s, but then, European banks have been all over security, unlike the US, where laws favored the banks over the consumer...
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Old 10-02-2015, 09:41 PM
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Someone here in the forum may have the belts - a lot of us have belts from our own repairs - I have several hundred, along with a bunch of idler tires and pinch rollers - mine came from a place I used to work at, but I don't have your belts. Your Hitachi is the same as a GE 1VCR1012W - made for GE by Hitachi. I have a Video cross-ref for parts that lists that model...

Search using Google - you'll find dealers that list the belt(s) and allow you to place an online order. Just ensure you have an https connection first...

Credit card fraud (was) more likely with "card present" transactions than over the phone or internet - fraudsters with a card could 100% clone a card and CVV, and charge up thousands before you even left the store. Now, with the chip cards, it's still easy to clone the magnetic strip, but in a year or so, all card readers will be chip-only, and eliminate the magnetic strip. In 2011, my parents used one of their cards in West Texas, while traveling, and it was cloned in the restaurant and maxed out the same night. Visa fraud detection called them and verified their only use at the restaurant - that had some previous fraud/cloning detected there. A year later, Dateline NBC featured the restaurant in a sting pulled off by an FBI task force - 11 people arrested, restaurant seized, and several hundred cloned cards recovered - but only after $16.5 million was transferred to Ukraine.

I remember chip credit cards and phone cards in Europe in the mid-90s, but then, European banks have been all over security, unlike the US, where laws favored the banks over the consumer...
OK, well do you have any suggestions of places online I might check that would have the belts I'm looking for that would do online orders instead of phone orders? Its not that I don't trust the people at the company you told be about its just that I don't like talking on the phone unless I have to (i'm very phone shy).

And yes I do have Secure Hypertext Transfer Protocol on my web browser that's all I ever use when I browse any website after having an incident where I had ordered some parts online once with my credit card (before getting paypal) and then having someone run up over $500 in charges on my card at places like Lowes and Wal-Mart which then I had to get my card replaced (and this actually happened to me twice). Anyways since then I use Paypal linked to my bank account with any and all online transactions I make, its much safer that way (no credit cards for people to steal and run charges up on).

EDIT: I looked over at SMC Electronics and they had the belts I needed, although I'm going to wait until I get my next round of spending money from my mom to to get them because the belts are $4 a piece plus $4.95 flat rate shipping which brought it up to about $12.95 which I only have $10 and some change left in my account right now which isn't enough to cover the cost of the belts.
I did manage to get the left side reel to turn which it wasn't doing that before so I'm guessing that once I get those belts replaced it will start working again, more than likely what happened to this VCR was that the drive belts for the right hand side reel and the counter belt both disintigrated into goo and that's why whoever owned the VCR before decided to get rid of the VCR because they figured since nobody fixed them anymore it wasn't worth keeping it so they took it to the computer store for them to dispose of it, what's interesting is that the VCR was in its original box with its original manual and original unused channel tabs still in the original unopened celaphane bag but no sign of the original remote or cable for the remote (this had a wired remote with it originally).
What's interesting is that it looked like the VCR was stored in an outdoor storage shed as it had a lot of water damage on the bottom of the box and had a lot of outdoor debris in it (grass clippings and what not) in the box and the VCR itself was covered in a layer of dirt and grass clippings.

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Old 10-05-2015, 01:49 PM
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I've got the belts for this unit ordered so hopefully I can can finally get this VCR going and hopefully that's all that this VCR will need.
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Old 10-13-2015, 09:51 AM
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Should be getting the belts for this VCR today finally, after nearly a week of waiting for it to get shipped and delivered, (I had ordered the belts from SMC Electronics last Monday and they didn't even ship the belts out until last Thursday and the belts are just now arriving in the mail today supposedly, so has anyone else experienced this horrible of a turnover time as far as getting parts sent out and then getting them delivered (whether it be from SMC or some other parts supplier?)
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:30 PM
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I second that phone shy stuff. I'm the same way. I'll text all day but if I actually have to call, forget it.
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