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Old 05-01-2023, 08:41 AM
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Yup thats the original jug. Almost 50 yrs & still quite usable.
Make a list for subs. CC2 sets are real common & probably use
the same one. Just be sure its a 30 Kv tube. Hybrids will
have 25 Kv so no go. I think you have a 25VDQP22
check the Sams.
The set up looks good. Last test is turn off the lights & turn everything down low. If the pix gets sharper its CRT

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Old 11-16-2023, 07:06 PM
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I've been checking possible replacement tubes off and on lately. I have a line on a NOS 25VAQP22, but I am not sure if it is a possible replacement.

I know the following information.

I have a 25VBQP22 in the set (looked like a D in the picture, confirmed with the Sams).
Per a 1976 Zenith interchangeability guide, the 25VAQP22 and 25VBQP22 (also equivalent to a 25VBNP22) are both replaceable by a 25VCNP22.

Per a 1982 Zenith guide, the 25VAQP22 is listed as a direct replacement for the 25VBNP22.

I am fairly confident that the 25VAQP22 will replace the 25VBQP22 based on that chain of equivalences, but I was wondering if anyone has information regarding this?
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Old 11-18-2023, 07:22 PM
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I am at the same place with my 25DC56 restoration. My set has the original Zenith 25VBQP22 CRT. I believe my set is low hour but it was plugged in it's entire life, prior to me purchasing it on FB last year. My CRT tests good on a Sencore CR70 but does not test well with the life test. The red gun is the weakest of the 3 and no matter how I set it up, it does not want to track well. The focus peaks but isn't very good. It looks much better in low light. I did not try to rejuvenate/restore because it is still watchable. I'm hoping to get my set to a better level.

I have several generations of Zenith, Video Display, and Sylvania CRT guides and came to the same conclusion you did that the 25VAQP22 was a substitute. I was able to find a VDC 25VAQP22 and plan to install it over the holiday weekend and will let you know. Is the tube you are considering NOS or rebuilt?

I haven't been able to understand how a rebuilt VDC 25VAQ compares to the original Zenith CRT? Black Matrix? How did the rebuilders, Zenith, Sylvania, RCA, VDC, compare with each other?
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Old 11-19-2023, 01:48 PM
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Zeniths solid states with DC, EC FC & maybe CC chassii are
instant on. Be sure its working, when turned on cold it should come
right up in a few seconds.
All flat chassii & early CC2 uprights MUST have new 22-5001 HV
safety caps IF they are white. Orange ones are OK.
Late EC & FC chassii uses the 4 lead cap. Be sure it is orange.
Also be sure you use the right one ! There are at least 3 others for different
Chassii such as 13", EFL CRT's , System 3 etc. Most uprights
used the 800-860 kit BUT be sure !

enuf fer now
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Old 11-19-2023, 07:00 PM
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I am at the same place with my 25DC56 restoration. My set has the original Zenith 25VBQP22 CRT. I believe my set is low hour but it was plugged in it's entire life, prior to me purchasing it on FB last year. My CRT tests good on a Sencore CR70 but does not test well with the life test. The red gun is the weakest of the 3 and no matter how I set it up, it does not want to track well. The focus peaks but isn't very good. It looks much better in low light. I did not try to rejuvenate/restore because it is still watchable. I'm hoping to get my set to a better level.

I have several generations of Zenith, Video Display, and Sylvania CRT guides and came to the same conclusion you did that the 25VAQP22 was a substitute. I was able to find a VDC 25VAQP22 and plan to install it over the holiday weekend and will let you know. Is the tube you are considering NOS or rebuilt?

I haven't been able to understand how a rebuilt VDC 25VAQ compares to the original Zenith CRT? Black Matrix? How did the rebuilders, Zenith, Sylvania, RCA, VDC, compare with each other?
I look forward to hearing back from your efforts! I was able to get a NOS tube, but am currently working the shipping logistics part of it.

I currently have the same issues as well, but have done all of the replacements mentioned by Zeno. (Set comes on quickly). Thanks again Zeno and all who chimed in for helping getting my set to at least the "usable" level it is at.
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Old 05-11-2024, 04:51 PM
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Hello all, been awhile!

I've got a good Sylvania 25VAQP22 from ETF sitting in the garage ready for an install. I will begin chassis and picture tube removal in the near future. I will be taking my time and attempting to restore the cabinet at this time as well.

I've located the disassembly instructions in the service manual and it looks more or less straightforward. Does anyone have any tips/tricks/gotchas when doing this kind of work? And with this 25DC56 chassis, are there any items I should touch while the chassis is out of the console? I plan on installing a new voltage tripler given how destroyed the divider was.
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Old 05-12-2024, 09:46 AM
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Hello all, been awhile!

I've got a good Sylvania 25VAQP22 from ETF sitting in the garage ready for an install. I will begin chassis and picture tube removal in the near future. I will be taking my time and attempting to restore the cabinet at this time as well.

I've located the disassembly instructions in the service manual and it looks more or less straightforward. Does anyone have any tips/tricks/gotchas when doing this kind of work? And with this 25DC56 chassis, are there any items I should touch while the chassis is out of the console? I plan on installing a new voltage tripler given how destroyed the divider was.
Most sets the CRT comes out as an assy with DGS shield, conv, yoke etc.
Lift out by sides NOT neck. To have grab room put a box a little smaller under the face of CRT. The cabinet will drop away. Move to a table & transfer parts.
Install.
A helper is good, he can lower the cabinet slowly & hold it up to
get the MTG screws started.
Have fun

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Old 05-12-2024, 10:16 AM
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One other thing. Xcelite used to make an extra long 1/4 inch
magnetic nut driver. I would guess its 25" - 30" long. If you can find one its a must for some sets. Also comes in phillips & #10.
I will see if I can find mine & post the model ## for the group.

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Old 05-12-2024, 11:08 AM
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Does anyone have any tips/tricks/gotchas when doing this kind of work?
Just one.

Take lots & lots of pics of everything before, and during taking it apart.
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Old 05-12-2024, 03:53 PM
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Model for driver is Excelite LL-8-M- 1/4
Overall 21" long. Its needed for 19" Zenith hybrids. CRT screws & tuner screws very hard without it.
I have two of them. Cant make up my mind weather to leave each son
one or get buried with one & let them fight over the other !
They are on E-bay sometimes.

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