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MadMan · #1 02-08-2018, 02:14 AM

I usually think of our spacefaring technology as kind of... primitive. But I suppose it does speak something about any technology, when it has advanced far enough to be used for doing stupid shit for no reason.

And while a car in space is pretty cool (incidentally, I imagine there were loads of considerations for placing an automobile in space!), nothing yet beats NASA's levels of fuckery on mars.

user181 · #2 02-08-2018, 08:10 AM

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I usually think of our spacefaring technology as kind of... primitive.

OK, how would YOU do it? Be specific with practical ways, available now, to get to Earth orbit.

It's been said that no matter where you want to go in space, once you get to Earth orbit, you're halfway there. Translation: it takes a LOT of energy to get to EO. Maybe one day something will be developed to replace conventional rockets, but it still will need to overcome the tremendous energy of Earth gravity.

Once you're in space, ion thrusters are a promising technology, but they can't get you off the face of the Earth.

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But I suppose it does speak something about any technology, when it has advanced far enough to be used for doing stupid shit for no reason.

While you are entitled to like/dislike what they did, it was NOT for no reason. It has already been mentioned in the posts above, but they needed ballast, in essence, to serve as a test load. Instead of using something ordinary like a mass of concrete, they decided to have some PR fun with it. Musk owns SpaceX and Tesla, so you should be able to see why he did that, even if you don't like it.

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And while a car in space is pretty cool (incidentally, I imagine there were loads of considerations for placing an automobile in space!),

No, the chances of any other manufacturer's vehicle being used would have been slim to none. As I said, SpaceX & Tesla are owned by the same guy. Even if you don't like it, it should be plain to see the self-interest.

MadMan · #3 02-08-2018, 08:00 PM

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No, the chances of any other manufacturer's vehicle being used would have been slim to none. As I said, SpaceX & Tesla are owned by the same guy. Even if you don't like it, it should be plain to see the self-interest.

Calm down dude, I was just saying my piece, you act like I was attacking you or something. Also, I never said anything about not liking it. I said it was cool.

benman94 · #4 02-08-2018, 11:06 AM

I think this whole ridiculous exercise can be succinctly described with just a word: hubris.

user181 · #5 02-08-2018, 03:28 PM

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I think this whole ridiculous exercise can be succinctly described with just a word: hubris.

I can agree with that. That's what I've long thought of Elon Musk while all the media and tech bloggers were fawning over him. Their fawning and his hubris is a self-perpetuating cycle.

That being said, it will be interesting to see what applications will be in store for the heavy lift rocket. Again, this all was a design verification test, but with a whole lot of hype & hoopla, which does not typically occur. It isn't a bad thing to have the public paying attention to space and being enthused about it again, for a change. NASA sure has blown it on that front (though they're between a rock and a hard place, being beholden to Congress, which collectively does care very much about space endeavors).

Electronic M · #6 02-08-2018, 09:15 PM

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It isn't a bad thing to have the public paying attention to space and being enthused about it again, for a change.

Agreed! American product design and Scifi has not been as cool since NASA allowed it's self to become boring.

Just saw the twin touchdown VERY cool....I'll admit I've not been consuming as much news lately, but it feels like local media has ignored this story....Were it not for VK I probably would not have heard of this.

etype2 · #7 02-08-2018, 04:28 PM

Watching the twin boosters returning to their launch pads gave me a renewed sense of pride in American ingenuity. A tremendous engineering feat. This test paves the way for entrepreneurs to invest in space exploration and save the taxpayers the expense.

This is going to open a new era and the technology and innovations discovered will benefit us all.

The landings: https://www.inverse.com/article/4099...nding-boosters

jr_tech · #8 02-08-2018, 05:42 PM

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Watching the twin boosters returning to their launch pads gave me a renewed sense of pride in American ingenuity. A tremendous engineering feat.

Incredible landing, but it's too bad that the central section apparently missed its platform at sea.

jr

etype2 · #9 02-08-2018, 06:08 PM

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Incredible landing, but it's too bad that the central section apparently missed its platform at sea.

jr

Yes, agreed. Space X pulled off barge landings in the past. This time they were trying to land three boosters at one time. It’s hard. They will try until they perfect it.

user181 · #10 02-09-2018, 06:01 PM

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Calm down dude, I was just saying my piece, you act like I was attacking you or something. Also, I never said anything about not liking it. I said it was cool.

To paraphrase Red Forman, you'd know it if I were actually riled up.

MadMan · #11 02-09-2018, 07:23 PM

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To paraphrase Red Forman, you'd know it if I were actually riled up.

Right...

init4fun · #12 02-09-2018, 08:40 PM

"My little pony got turned into bologna and served with macaroni"

MadMan · #13 02-09-2018, 11:07 PM

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"My little pony got turned into bologna and served with macaroni"

lol I've never heard that. Is that like actually a thing or did you just make that up?

Also, that sounds disgusting.

Jon A. · #14 02-10-2018, 12:36 AM

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"My little pony got turned into bologna and served with macaroni"

I would be inclined to use "baloney" over "bologna", but the former may be more commonly used up here, I don't know.

init4fun · #15 02-10-2018, 09:45 AM

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lol I've never heard that. Is that like actually a thing or did you just make that up?

Also, that sounds disgusting.

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I would be inclined to use "baloney" over "bologna", but the former may be more commonly used up here, I don't know.

Way back in the 1980s , when MLP was a toy who didn't yet have his (her ?) own cartoon show , the TV advertising had a song that went along with the narrative where someone was singing "My little pony .........." and I don't remember the rest of the real song because all the kids of that time would sing what I posted above , and that of course is what has stuck in my head all these years whenever I see anything MLP related . Ok , so it's been a few years since the 1980s , but I figured at least Mad Man may have heard it , being into the Brony thing & all . Just a goofy kid's song kinda like "The worms crawl in , the worms crawl out , the worms play pinochle on your snout" , that sort of thing .