80's tube ENG cams fun

[jr_tech]

Any details? I am really scratching my head trying to figure out how they did that.
Full alpha wrap??

jr

[dauberich]

Hi.

I'm also a big fan of the BVP-30!

Together with the BVV-1 (.. not PVV-1, that was a later only professional recorder P..!), not Broadcast (B..!) and the chest-pad it was a perfectly balanced camcorder, that gave you even at medium shots a good steadiness. Steady shots also need weight and of course cams in these days were heavy..

The no-playback-thing:
Yes, many Recorders in these days were only capable of recording and couldn't play back anything. But coming from 16mm film in ENG that wasn't really a flaw. Checking your "real" picture (o.k., it was b/w in these days) already was a step ahead compared to the e.g. SR2 (Arri) viewfinder that only showed you your shot, but not the exposure or how the film will handle the light.
There even were Recorders like the BVU-50 Sony U-Matic recorder, that could not roll back the tape. There was only one knop on the front: "REC".
If the tapes you took with you were rolled to,the end, you were lost..
But in these days the Cassettes were little bit like the film rolls: Insert it, "exposure" it, see it again at he editing suite.

The BVV-1 already was a little step ahead, there: You could roll back the tape. (the knop on top, that was no switch but more a kind of a clutch pressing the motor to the spools off the cassette.
Here is my BVP-30/BVV-1: https://www.engcameracollection.com/...-bvp-30p-2-2-2
hope you like it.

By the way: the Camera was also available as a saticon-version, with almost the same look https://www.engcameracollection.com/blank-xvhlu

[kf4rca]

I was fortunate that my station didn't jump on the Beta format till the BVV5/BVP5 (BVW505) combo came out. Then they bought 5 sets.
They later bought BVW300's and then later bought the SX cams when digital came out.

[dauberich]

Hi kf4rca.
'Hope your BVW-300 were the later ones that were more sensitive (lens on chip).
I remember the color of the first BVW-300P (Pal) they had a light tendency to green in gamma. Grey-chart was clean and linear, but in Skintones and in "real live" in generell this tint was obvious.
The later 300 (300AP or 300A) not only were more sensitive, they also were free of that problem.
Same it was with the BVP-7P resp. 7AP.
Or has that been an PAL-only problem and the NTSC-300 was clean? (if any NTSC signal can be "clean" anyway ;-)

[old_tv_nut]

Originally Posted by dauberich

Hi kf4rca.
'Hope your BVW-300 were the later ones that were more sensitive (lens on chip).
I remember the color of the first BVW-300P (Pal) they had a light tendency to green in gamma. Grey-chart was clean and linear, but in Skintones and in "real live" in generell this tint was obvious.
The later 300 (300AP or 300A) not only were more sensitive, they also were free of that problem.
Same it was with the BVP-7P resp. 7AP.
Or has that been an PAL-only problem and the NTSC-300 was clean? (if any NTSC signal can be "clean" anyway ;-)

I wonder if the PAL and NTSC versions used different color matrix values?